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		    <description><![CDATA[<p>Ooo Ooo I hope I not to late...</p>
<p>Zou forgot working for ValleyRag....</p> <p><a href="http://www.johnmwillis.com">zabovo</a></p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#c5806099">GeekyNerdGuy</a>:</p>
<p>You've clearly never been a teacher. I don't teach school kids, but I have done business training and private teaching and teaching is horribly tiring and requires a great deal of preparation. The main problem is that you're always "on". It's like acting. It's also a thankless task.</p>
<p>I can't imagine putting up with a horde of uncooperative kids as part of my work. It's hard enough putting up with easily bored and uncooperative adults.</p>
<p>Besides, if you think the teachers are getting a better deal than you as a reporter, you can always change jobs. Teachers are usually in demand.</p> <p><a href="n/a">ShariC</a></p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<p>@dangster: These jobs are (the big name ones anyway) are resume builders.  There are far worse jobs out there (Papa Midnight is right on with GeekSquad).  And countless other jobs for less prestigious companies.</p>
<p>There are also far better jobs.  If you really think you're such hot shit then you should be doing something creative,  work at a startup for example.  Thing is, you can't have it both ways.  You can't make $70,000 right out of school and also do interesting work unless you are incredibly talented and also lucky to boot.</p>
<p>It doesn't matter how hard you worked in college, no one will give a shit until you prove yourself in the real world.  I'm the first to recognize the value of a quality CS degree (I have one, and yes it's very applicable), but I've met brilliant PhDs who can't tie their shoes let alone create a successful product.</p> <p>telbij</p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<p>I would have to say that working the phone lines at Earthlink was the worst possible tech job.  After two years of not advancing (only 1 in 1000 ever do, and politics has everything to do with it), the only positive thing it showed to future employers was my ability to work in a godless, windowless environment.  After that, my next jobs were a cakewalk.  It took me 5 years to break the 60k mark, and with some personal DIRECTION and current certifications towards your goal, the 100k mark (in Atlanta) is less than 5 away and my gift to myself when I turn 30.  Four years of college means very little anymore.




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		    <description><![CDATA[<P>I happen to have worked for one of these companies mentioned in internships and after graduating from college, and while it is certainly nice to get paid a decent amount and have something nice to put on a resume, it sucks to hate your job and not learn anything useful. This is particularly true when you are both lied to about the job you end up taking, when you could easily have gotten a job you didn't hate for close to the same salary had you only known the truth...</P>
<P>While some of you may be salivating at some of these jobs, keep in mind that there are jobs like this in any field and at any level, and it is good to be aware of them before you accept. Remember that when you interview it is as much or more about trying to get a feel for the job than it is trying to get them to offer it to you.</P> <p>krazdon</p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<p>Are you kidding me? You want a shitty job try working in the domain
parking industry. The people I worked for were some jokers. When I got
hired they tried to tell me oh we goto google ever Augest, have full
benefits, treat people life family,  etc. They straight up lied. I had
to work 10 to 12 hours a day and that was on a normal day. If I worked
less I'd get shit by Roy Barrett (One of the owners). They'd all call
up the feed providers of other companies and pretend to ask questions
and be like parked.com does this or sedo.com did that is that okay if
we do it? Knowing full well it wasn't, but they didn't care.  They
only wanted to hurt sedo or any one else to raise their bottom line.

I was the lead developer at this parking company and I saw a lot of
stuff that would make anyone cringe. I'd leave everyday hating myself
for what I was doing to the internet and people in general.

I would call Roy a fraud, because I've seen him pull accounts from
parkingpanel.com for "fraud" and give the money to bigger people like
Greg Ricks, because those are the people that funded their domain
tasting under the alias "GeeWhiz Domains".  They had other registars
as well, but I won't release their names.

I'd much rather work at google or even digging a ditch. At least then
I'd be doing something productive.

The only thing I can I say positive about ParkingPanel.com is that I
learned how to figure out the price of a keyword. Not because they
taught me, but because I figured it out on my own based on statistics.
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		    <description><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#c5821466">Whocares</a>: $150k pa is pretty darn good for staff. If you want to make more money, you have to take risks. If you'd prefer a pension plan to an ulcer, lease an Audi instead of buying a Lambo and STFU.</p> <p><a href="http://raincoaster.com">raincoaster</a></p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<p>@Ioakim: "I spent half my life to get a Ph.D. and will barely be making that as an asst professor at a major research university."</p>
<p>Sometimes I think the one thing they dont teach postgraduate students is that, unlike a HS diploma or bachelors, it means relatively little to your potential additional wage earnings.</p>
<p>But I see you sought to counter that by going into education.</p>
<p>Clap.</p> <p>brundlefly76</p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<p>This list really should include video game testing. Sub-$15 hourly pay, nights, weekends, irregular hours, the most mind-numbingly repetitive work possible, etc.</p> <p><a href="http://manyrobots.blogspot.com">James D</a></p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<P>Hey CarissaPhrixus, I think you got your greater-than/less-thans mixed up. Don't you mean "less than" 25? I don't think there are any women over 25 working there, is there? Oh yeah, only those that have been hand touched... I mean, picked... by MP to be on his "special team".</P> <p>YouDeserveBetter</p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<P>Anyone from San Diego knows that SMS.ac/Fanbox is a sweatshop... Those wussies in the Valley don't have a clue about what is hard work until they live under the whip of MP and the Fanatics.</P> <p>YouDeserveBetter</p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<p>50k in bay area = 60k in NYC (no car there!) = 75k in london = 30k in philadelphia = 45k in LA = 25k in austin</p>
<p>debate over</p> <p>mork2010</p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<P>How about $12 an hour for a part-time job that requires a college degree and significant experience? That is what I'm seeing here in Denver. Here is an excerpt:</P>
<P>IT Coordinator (part time) <BR>* Education: College graduate with training in computer programming or related field preferred Training in computer applications, networks, and web development skills essential <BR>* Experience: Current experience in programming, database management, and web site design/programming. Experience with HTML, PHP, Windows OS, FTP, SQL and CMS applications. <BR>Compensation: $12-14 per hour DOE</P> <p>walterbyrd</p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#c5818689">walkathon</a>: Ok.. well I guess I lost my sense of reality.  I personally could not see myself living a life that didn't mean checking my bank account daily and 'skipping' on lifes simple luxuries like daily coffee or a burrito on an income less than $50k.  That also means living in an apartment/rental.. with a roomate.. and driving a car that reliably gets you to/from work.</p>
<p>This is of course in the bay area.. I'm sure in other parts of the country $50k/yr buys you a 4 bedroom house with a picket fence and an entry level luxury sedan such as an Audi.</p>
<p>--Marcus</p> <p><a href="http://">Whocares</a></p>]]></description>
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Move from wherever you live to sunny San Diego!  

You can expect to record 40 hours a week, but realistically you work close to double that.  Recorded over-time must be pre-approved of course (approval is automatically denied).  You'll get an competitive offer to get you here but will be on immediate pay-reduction at $400 per week due to poor cash flow.  But once we get revenues up, it'll be full-pay for everyone!  (Well, the management team is at full-pay now but don't tell anyone.)

We promise to go IPO in the next 2 to 20 years and you will have an option to buy our pre-public stock after your first year (if you make it that long).  We've hired over 2,000 top technical people in the last few years so we know talent when we see it!  If you don't think so, ask any recruiter or techie in the San Diego area.  They either have worked here or work with someone who has worked here.

Other perks include:  persistent fear for your job, constant pressure to meet unrealistic goals, mandatory workouts twice a day (this satisfies your California required 15-minute breaks), unsolicited advances by our CEO (must be >25 years old, preferably blonde), requirements to sign-up (and pay for) our premium services (someone has to pay the bills), and catered meals!

If you'd like to more about working here Google: SMS.ac Fanbox scam spam former employee


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		    <description><![CDATA[<p>I did enjoy the descriptions (and the whining); it took me down a few dark, dank memory lanes that I was parked on (in gridlocked traffic) for the first decade after college.</p>
<p>But I agree with several posters here who are a bit surprised that most of these jobs are still at the level the bulk of us would have preferred (big-time!) to what we went through in our own less-than-stellar formative years.</p>
<p>For me, the worst part was as a gateway controller at a major mortgage bank, where my piddly responsibility was to double-check that home loans written by people would be accepted by the proprietary computer system -- truly a job bereft of need (The account executives were already typing the applications into their PCs, why did they need me?).  It was my job to 'inform' the 6-figure executives when something was wrong with their $300K loan written for an outhouse in Dade county (flood zone!).</p>
<p>My 'undocumented' responsibilities included fielding phone calls intended for the division's first VP, who went for so long without accepting phone calls that his secretary gave up on him, leaving me to pick up the phone for the both of them.  The salary?  An dollar and a half less an hour than that same person had baited me with.  (OK, I'm an idiot; but it was 1993 and I had an Associate's degree...)</p> <p><a href="http://MacBigot.com/">macbigot</a></p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<p>I don't know where you are that the teachers make $43K right out of school.  I just so happen to be right out of school as a teacher, and I am scrambling and filling out every application in the Seattle area just to TRY and get a chance to interview for a job that lists its starting pay at about $33K/year.<br>
I would give ANYTHING to have one of these "crappy" jobs that at least let you go home, and pay me a living wage.  If I was not married, I wouldn't be able to eat on my teaching wages in Seattle.</p> <p>frankthefink</p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<P>Hilarious Article! We have all been there</P> <p>Aceboogie</p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<P>Alright, jobs that are 50k or above should be removed from this list.</P>
<P>Try working a Support role like the Amazon position, but with 40k and on Graveyard or Swing-shift. Oh memories...</P> <p>EtherealDragonz</p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#c5819290">DanLar75</a>: I think any position at EA would qualify, not just QA...</p>
<p>I started out with much worse digs than what the current set of whiners are complaining about. Then again, no one was hiring at the time and you just took whatever you could.</p>
<p>Having worked my way from the bottom, if you're complaining about the pay on your first job out school, just STFU. A little humility is good for you...</p> <p>QADude</p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#c5817180">dangster</a>: You do realize you're not the only person in history to go to college, right?</p> <p>edosan</p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#c5819290">DanLar75</a>: They exist? :D</p> <p><a href="n/a">Guizzy</a></p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<P>QA Bug Tester for Electronic Arts not on the list?</P> <p>DanLar75</p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<p><b>@Zoo</b> ... sorry, your follow-up still didn't win me back after that incredulous first post.</p>
<p>While I respect the fact that the article responsibly points out that not every job at Google is a golden gig, if ever there was a textbook example of Millennials and their ever-growing sense of entitlement, here's Exhibit A.    Certainly heard <b>heaps</b> of it while recently hiring for a junior coder.   I showed this article to a large handful of tech colleagues &amp; pros, all of them sending unprompted replies containing various iterations of 'whiny,' - not terribly surprising since many of them started with much worse and relatively much lower-paying first gigs.   Back to reality, Valleywag.</p> <p>walkathon</p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#c5817180">dangster</a>: "Just" 50k is A LOT for an ENTRY-level job, in pretty much every field not requiring a master's degree.</p> <p><a href="n/a">Guizzy</a></p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<p>I CANNOT believe that Dell Gold Technical Support is not #1. How about management that throws around phrases like "I wish to convey a sense of appreciation", or " Once again Team XXXX has achieved differentiated results"! not enough? If you're 15 minutes early to work, you can't be at your desk; if you are, you have to be logged in and taking calls. And don't even think about being late. Or how about management making daily changes to how things are done? For crying out loud, Dell's been making, selling, and servicing computers for how many years? Haven't they pretty much figured out the workflow yet? One friend who lasted longer than I had to move to completely different parts of the building 5 times in 6 months, doing the exact same job (Gold Technical Support). Oh, and you HAVE to follow Dell's guided troubleshooting to arrive at a solution, even if you know why it's broken; if you don't you can't get a part dispatched, and even then management is all over your case for taking too long coaching that 85 year old grandmother in disassembling and reassembling her computer 10 times because the hard drive is dead.</p>
<p>OK, I'll get off the box now. I couldn't WAIT to get out of there. And none of my friends would shoot me, either.</p> <p>Brian</p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#c5817180">dangster</a>:</p>
<p>So basically, exactly the same experience as most other college students? I had to stay up all night on many projects as well, but my field has nothing to do with Computer Science. Fuck, my college probably isn't even in the top 10 of the field I'm in. But, I still had to write a full computer program in a senior level class <b>within</b> my major. REMINDER: I AM NOT A COMP SCI STUDENT. You know how long that took? How much stress was involved? Again, I am NOT a comp sci student. What makes you think you had it so tough? I'm not really sure why you think CS people are special and deserve more.</p> <p>trujunglist</p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<p>My point is.. in tech work.. you get paid large.. and go up the ranks quickly.. only to find you've reach the top floor quite quickly.  Where as in sales, and many other positions you continue to grow with the companies you work for..</p>
<p>That and by the time your an expert in anything the technology is obsolete and someone 5 years your junior will take your position for $7.50/hr..</p>
<p>Secondly I was suggesting that while these jobs may seem low paid to some they can quickly turn into a high paying job in only a few years.  With the exception of maybe Mahalo.</p> <p><a href="http://">Whocares</a></p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<p>Maybe you guys should quit complaining about how "high paying" these positions are and actually study computer science or other engineering fields.  Then you'll understand why some of these jobs might suck.</p>
<p>Computer Science is not a trivial field of study.  Admission to the top 10 CS programs/schools in the country is very competitive--I was extremely fortunate to have gotten into one of them.  Graduating isn't a walk in the park either.  You spend seemingly endless nights working on tough homework and projects, without hope of a social life.  And in my case, try adding a prof who makes inappropriate advances toward you, and then gives you a near-failing grade when you complain to your school.  Not to mention the chauvinistic men in your major who treat you like crap simply because you're female.</p>
<p>Is it too much to expect at least a job that treats decently after all the crap I've gone through?  It's simply not enough to just get paid $50k+.</p> <p><a href="http://marydang.com">dangster</a></p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#c5810451">godospoons</a>: You mean poli sci. Poly would suggested you sciences and poli is short for political.</p>
<p>Sorry. That's always driven me nuts.</p> <p><a href="http://">Oh No I Di'n't.</a></p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<p>I'd have to agree with the GeekSquad or ISP tech support being the worst - been there done that.</p> <p><a href="http://www.voluum.com">voluum</a></p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<p>Geez! These salaries are very high for entry-level in that line of work, without even counting the big boost to your CV from having Google, Facebook or Microsoft as your previous employer!</p> <p><a href="n/a">Guizzy</a></p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<p>This list should have been titled "The 10 Lamest Complaints From People Who Work For Pretty Great Companies On Higher-Than-Average Salaries."</p> <p>Elaine Chow</p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<P>goog lord man I started back in the day at a world leading RnD outfit and my office was a portacabin next to where they used to test the executive jets engines after maintainace.</P> <p><a href="http://hauntingthunder.wordpress.com/">Mouser_UK</a></p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<p>quit complaining and go spend that disposable income that suddenly fell into your lap.</p> <p><a href="n/a">brian s.</a></p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#c5806498">something_unique_and_descriptive</a>: "Try local ISP Tech Support...just about any Technical Support position is going to be worse than most of those jobs."</p>
<p>Agreed. Seems to me that anyone getting $50-80k straight out of college should be happy.</p>
<p>"There are low ceilings in here! This isn't worth the $80,000 a year I'm being paid! Boo hoo!"</p>
<p>Ten worst entry-level jobs? Not hardly.</p> <p>edosan</p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<p>Well, as someone who skipped college and basically screwed around from age 17 to 21, I can tell you that ANY of these jobs is much better than what's available to the unwashed masses.</p>
<p>On the other hand, i can brag that i've personally made over twenty five thousand pizzas.</p> <p><a href="n/a">nutbastard</a></p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#c5806797">paulrocks</a>: What?  The benefit of a PolySci degree is getting to bang campaign interns.  And you really can't put a price on that.</p> <p>godospoons</p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<P>@<A href="http://valleywag.com/389746/techs-10-worst-entry+level-jobs#c5808873">tinyhands</A>: Sorry about that curry. I forgot to cover it.</P>
<P>Harry "loves the curry - food that is" Wang</P> <p><a href="http://www.rawhoo.com">FiveStarEggRoll</a></p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<P>How is being a secretary or a financial analyst a "tech" job? Is it merely working for a tech company? If so, I would think cleaning the exploded, caked-on curry out of the 5th floor microwave would be on the list of worst entry-level tech jobs.</P> <p>tinyhands</p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<p>Yeah making 50,000 and working for a company like Google or Facebook right out of college sure would blow...</p> <p>yamarwook</p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<p>Shut up and get back to work.</p> <p><a href="http://www.gizmodo.com">strider_mt2k</a></p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<p>Where do I leave my resume ?</p> <p>HydePark</p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<P>@jiindong are you serious? I'll pay yo $2.50/hr man....</P> <p><a href="n/a">michaellamb</a></p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#c5806996">Zoo</a>: Ya, ya, that's a real problem. Cry me the fucking Mississippi.</p>
<p>What they're not saying is that most of these people's second jobs, which were kindasorta thrust upon them during the merger, is as $8.50 per hour baristas.</p> <p><a href="http://raincoaster.com">raincoaster</a></p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<p>I know plenty of people who turned a $7.50/hr job supporting dial up users into a six figure tech job in around 5 years. Problem is.. they'll be at the $100k-$150k mark for the next 10 years before they can break into a IT Director or similar role.. even then the ceiling is pretty stiff for tech's.  Breaking through $125-$150 is no easy feat.</p> <p><a href="http://">Whocares</a></p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#c5806590">Jordan Golson</a>: That thought crossed my mind, too, but the basic HTML skills necessary for the position probably aren't "tech" enough. And it's not really a job you apply for, it's more like you're anointed from on high and elevated to staff writer/singled out for punishment and forced to blog by a cruel overlord. (Depends on the day.)</p>
<p>To be fair, though, Valleywag was far from the worst job I ever had. And I'd much rather repeat the stint here than go back to being an admin. Which reminds me: Where did Pete Cashmore get the funds to hire a full-time party scheduler?</p> <p><a href="http://valleywag.com">Megan McCarthy</a></p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#c5804804">Ioakim</a>: That's why I left my Ph.D. program. <br>
Well, that and the realization that "political science" (as with other social sciences) can never be operationally scientific (only theoretically so) and that the real-world implications/usefulness of the research are very close to zero.</p> <p>paulrocks</p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<p>How is Valleywag writer not on that list?</p> <p><a href="http://jordangolson.com/">Jordan Golson</a></p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, these are nowhere near the bottom of the barrel.</p>
<p>Try local ISP Tech Support, pissed off customers with PEBKAC errors and you're making $7.50 an hour in an un-airconditioned cubicle during the summer.</p>
<p>Hell, just about any Technical Support position is going to be worse than most of those jobs.</p>
<p>Or there's always Blue Current (they're a technology logistics contractor for Boeing). The way the job was billed: "Entry level tech position, involves setup, configuration, and installation of desktop and notebook computers."  What it actually was: "Warehouse and delivery of IT related systems.  You may occasionally see a computer but but actual tech related work tops out at imaging systems and connecting monitors." Pay : $10 an hour (UPS Warehouse pay in the same area: $15 an hour).</p>
<p>Hell, of the ones you listed there are only two that I wouldn't do, the one at Microsoft and the Executive Assistant gig... and if you upped the salary even those might change.</p> <p>something_unique_and_descriptive</p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<P>My entry-level job as a newspaper reporter right out of college paid $20k, and I was working 80+ hours a week. I had to cover ridiculous water authority and school board meetings every night of the week and spent most Saturdays at lame festivals and parades shooting photos.</P>
<P>The worst part was that I had to listen to teachers making $43k straight out of school whine constantly about how THEY weren't getting paid enough. You think putting up with a classroom of 20 whiney ADD kids and having summers off is hard to do? Try hitting ridiculous deadlines and putting up with 100,000 whiney ADD readers and only having New Years Day, Memorial Day, Labor Day, Thanksgiving Day and Christmas Day off.</P> <p>RacecarBoobTat</p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<p>phew we almost didnt make the list!</p> <p><a href="http://www.seanpercival.com">seanpercival</a></p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<p>I applied for all of these positions.  I am going to be rich!</p> <p>dna</p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#c5805927">DozeUser</a>: I spend more time making things work then actually washing dishes</p> <p>DozeUser</p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<p>worst entry level tech job "Total Aquatic Technician" that happens to be what they call dishwasher's at the Italian restaurant i work at (I will not mention the name) basically this means that i am resposible for fixing old tech (i mean really old I hath fixed the dishwasher 3 or 4 times, i unclogged toilets on a daily basis and there were a few times where i would come in and would have to fix the P.O.S server that did the orders) I would consider that a pretty cruddy entry level "tech" job</p> <p>DozeUser</p>]]></description>
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		    <pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 20 May 2008 21:24:28 PDT]]></pubDate>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<p>Hmm... worst entry-level tech job... One word for you: Geeksquad. Period.</p> <p><a href="http://www.thesupersoldiers.com">Papa Midnight</a></p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<p>Wow.  Sounds like my job.</p> <p><a href="http://myspace.com/discourse">godzira</a></p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<p>Talking about worst tech entry level job, I'm in one of those. Currently working as a part timer, working as link submitting, blog commenter and etc. Earning 1.5USD per hour. Lol. Maybe the worst among all. But life gonna go on. Else no lunch for me. Good luck guys.</p> <p><a href="http://www.kongtechnology.com">jiindong</a></p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<P>80 grand for an entry level job? Time to apply and kick those whiney losers out! Let's see how they feel about their new job bagging groceries at the Safeway.</P> <p>mwbeeler</p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#c5804804">Ioakim</a>:</p>
<p>Screw the PT Mahalo job, do what you're really worth, be a Wikipedia editor!</p> <p><a href="http://alaska.miller@gmail.com">Alaska Miller</a></p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<P>having trouble figuring out why the people at google were crying so much. wtf, mango lassi machine down or something?</P> <p>budd</p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<P>@<A href="http://valleywag.com/389746/techs-10-worst-entry+level-jobs#c5804804">Ioakim</A>: Then why don't you apply for: Part-time guide, Mahalo</P> <p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Lusk_Alcorn">ScalaWag</a></p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<P>Boo fucking hoo. I clicked through about 4 of those and if they are representative, then getting paid 60-70K right out of college at an "entry" level job is nothing to complain about, regardless of the "tough" working conditions (ceiling too low? CSR work? no windows? cubicle? oh the torture!!). I spent half my life to get a Ph.D. and will barely be making that as an asst professor at a major research university.</P> <p>Ioakim</p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<p>some waiter told me about a DJ in an restaurant don't judge a man by his job...</p> <p><a href="http://pigle.com">Valicious</a></p>]]></description>
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