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		    <description><![CDATA[<P>This was pretty tasteless. I'm not so concerned about the big companies. This isn't going to make or break Moto. But, like others here, I'm referring to the presenters and techs. They may seem like the face of the company, the "man", but they're just normal people hired for what they do, they may even be actors. Often, the techs don't even work for the company directly, either, but are contracted on for the job. You're probably hurting the smaller businesses more than the big ones, because they're the ones who won't get hired again next year because they appear to have failed.</P>
<P>And from my own experience, I have been asked to give presentations for companies that are important to my livelyhood. I'm just a very small business owner, and I consider these great opportunities to be seen and interact. They're also slightly terrifying if you're not accustomed to speaking to audiences. If the screen would have gone out at one of my presentations, I might have lost even more confidence.</P>
<P>This just feels like the equivalent to walking into a chain store you hate, doing something that gets an employee in trouble, and feeling like you really pulled off something.</P>
<P>I love the blogs I read. I read Engadget every day. But I'll never read Gizmodo now. Just irresponsible and inconsiderate.</P> <p>tumblebird</p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<p>@Brian</p>
<p>"Relax. It was a joke."<br>
"Definition of Press to ponies: Compliance with corporate america. Great."</p>
<p>"Civil Obedience is not a requirement of journalism."<br>
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  You say this as if you were doing somethign virtous because there was some sort of higher prupose. There wasn't.</p>
<p>As for compliance with Corporate American, I don't get how exactly is making any political statement nor a "show of" any sort of grass roots movements to do your little man joke.</p>
<p>It sounds funny. Until you THINK about it (maybe you can't, that's the problem), and see there's a lot of work that goes into making one of these presentations. For some it's a one shot deal at looking good to get funding, for a team of hardworking engineers, that were on a project for months.</p>
<p>If I was Motorola, I would be calling my lawyers. Or hack your website to be "turned off" for a whole week and see how you like it.</p>
<p>Stop trying to justify what you did. It's wrong, there was no virtue to and as much value as a drunken teenager driving on the road wide left and right thinking it's a cool idea.</p>
<p>This was a little man joke.</p> <p>raist3d_2</p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#c3690943">KevininSeattle</a>: <i>the respect and credibility that traditional journalists get</i></p>
<p>You're serious, aren't you? Wow.</p> <p><a href="http://www.starzantees.com">nojo</a></p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#c3690225">Brian Lam</a>:C'mon Brian, you're trying to have it both ways: you want the respect and credibility that traditional journalists get but when you're expected to adhere to anything like a basic code of conduct you're something new and different and just too cool to follow any rules.  But that's just BS.  Fact is, your guys screwed up.  You're the boss, so by the transitive property of stupidity, you screwed up, too.  Take it like a man.  Stop making excuses and offering lame rationalizations.</p> <p>KevininSeattle</p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#c3671239">rafe</a>: Thats civil of you, Rafe. Thanks.</p> <p><a href="http://Http://gizmodo.com">Brian Lam</a></p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#c3680106">KevininSeattle</a>: This has not been a rule of journalism for a long time. Read magazines  ever?</p> <p><a href="http://Http://gizmodo.com">Brian Lam</a></p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<p>Civil Obedience is not a requirement of journalism. Response to this whole overblown joke coming on Monday morning.</p> <p><a href="http://Http://gizmodo.com">Brian Lam</a></p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<p>Because Gizmodo sell ads and pay writers does not make them professionals. What would is consistency, the same standard of conduct expected of their peers, accuracy, accountability. Granted, there's plenty of trash in print and online hardly meets all these criteria, but even US Weekly knows better than to throw a turd in the punchbowl at a party they're invited to and brag about it. Talk about amateur hour.</p>
<p>But really, the worst offense is that this stunt wasn't even funny. I've seen better pranks on Candid Camera. A smart editor could find plenty of funny at CES without have to orchestrate a weak-ass prank. Bush league.</p> <p>dogfish12</p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#c3685375">chris2x</a>: <i>Traditional American press has always had that sort of journalism, but we call it editorial content.</i></p>
<p>Or, if you want to get <i>really</i> traditional, "the press" -- "unbiased" reporting only goes back a century or so, a market-driven decision to reach more readers, itself a consequence of new mass production. Hate 'em or hate 'em, Fox is actually more traditional than we'd like to think: The original "press" -- political pamphleteers -- would be more akin to bloggers than the New York Times.</p>
<p>Which is getting wayyyy off subject, but I'm always amused at how young some of our "traditions" are.</p> <p><a href="http://www.starzantees.com">nojo</a></p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<P>How many of the readers here are techs? If you are a real tech you know that if a component FAILS you just don't reset the system you have to find out why it failed so that it won't happen again. When a display turns itself off in the middle of a presentation. My first thoughts are OMG, WTF, and how much is this costing. I don't jump to the idea of "Is there a 12 year old boy hiding someplace playing stupid pranks?". Don't blame the techs for not just turning the display back on. This little prank cost companies real money not play money and I am hoping to see a lawsuit to recover the money that was lost.</P> <p>prof</p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<p>@PRESTON</p>
<p>Some have made the argument that bloggers are not press because they have opinion and style.</p>
<p>1) Traditional American press has always had that sort of journalism, but we call it editorial content. Every columnist in the US rights with style and opinion or at least attempts to do so.</p>
<p>2) In other countries like the UK, "unbiased reporting" has been less a part of the culture. All reporters have some bias.</p>
<p>@BRIAN LAM</p>
<p>Relax, its just the consequences.</p> <p>Chris (Amateur Traveler podcast)</p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#c3677797">urkel</a>: If you've ever tried to get through the liveblog of the Macworld keynote on Giz you'd know that they already take care of that themselves.</p>
<p>@<a href="#c3682036">moucon</a>: No, "pros" would never do such a thing - <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killian_documents">[en.wikipedia.org]</a></p>
<p>Fact is, I love reading Gizmodo, but this (and that tubgirl prank) was childish and shouldn't have been done during demos. However, you could argue that this demonstrates the functionality of one of the few real gadgets at CES, for better or worse.</p> <p><a href="http://www.viacelli.com">Drew P Draws</a></p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<p>What cracks me up is that savager is falling all over himself on every blog he can find to kiss the ass of gizmodo.  How sad.</p>
<p>Yet how entertaining for the rest of us!  Bless his little heart.</p> <p><a href="http://">MonkeySeeMonkeyDo</a></p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<p>of course maucon. journalists never make mistakes right. they're just so infalible.</p>
<p>go masturbate or something. you're all clearly repressed.</p> <p>Beard Police</p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#c3655128">Brian Lam</a>:  Trying to justify any of this is pointless.  This was completely irresponsible of you and there will be further repercussions.  Posting the video was just icing on the cake - "here, you want us to PROVE how stupid we are? check out our video."</p> <p>rollotomnasi</p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<P>Calling this a "prank" etc. spins it into the ranks of Jr.High. I'm an exhibitor. Exhibitors spend tens of thousands, sometimes hundreds of thousands, sometimes millions of $$ to attend these shows - it is reprehensible that "press" - who are there by invitation to cover products in the media, are responsible for sabotaging exhibits and presentations from the paying clients. Gizmodo staff are beyond childish... their site often "publishes" "information" that has to be retracted later because it wasn't fact-checked and was in fact - bullshit. THAT is the difference between "Bloggers" and "Pros" It's not the medium (print or online) it's the quality of the content. Gizmodo is crap.</P> <p>moucon</p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<p>Hey, I put my ass cheeks up to every LCD monitor I could at CES, leaving a lovely little wet heart, and no one noticed! Do I have to be a well known blogger for anyone to care!? Come on bitches, look at my ass!</p> <p>GinaMuchava</p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<p>I'm really confused about this whole matter. <br>
 I mean. all they did was turn tv's off. how come nobody turned them back on. seems like a simple fix to me.</p>
<p>if you're at a trade show trying to sell your product. shouldn't you know how to freaking turn your product on.</p>
<p>and what i also dont understand is why this is being made such a big deal. all gizmodo's camerman did was expose how unprepared people were. i mean the place must have been full of thousands of tv's and remotes. wouldn't they want to prevent any kind of interference.</p>
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was tv-b-gone being shown at CES. because that'd be pretty funny</p> <p>Beard Police</p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<p>As someone who was responsible for setting up the equipment at one of the targeted booths (I was not present when this occurred), all I can say is that the responsible party is an immature brat.  We are under tremendous stress to make sure the presentations go flawlessly.  I ran the cables, zip-tied everything together and taped power cords all so nothing could come loose.  Then we rigged the video multipliers to switchboxes and sources.  Then we test everything and get the timing down.  When something goes wrong with something I am responsible for, everyone looks at me.  I don't appreciate having someone ruining my setup because they think it's funny. It's stressful enough as it is.  Next year there will be tape over the IR ports of all our equipment.  I hope for Gizmodo's sake that no one lost their job or was otherwise reprimanded because of their interference.  It's a definite possibility when you understand how stressful CES is.</p> <p>CESguy</p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<p>Re: Bloggers as second-class?</p>
<p>Look, I was there with a "blogger" badge. I did my work in the Blogger's Lounge. At first it chafed a little bit, but honestly we got the same access as those with "press" badges, and in some cases more. And the blogger's loungs (as we call the "blounge") was better than the press room. Fater Internet connections, better food, free lunch, coffee, TV, and couches.</p>
<p>Though I could have a press pass, next year I'm going for the blogger badge, if they bring it back.</p> <p>Matt Hickey</p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<P>I've been reading comments about this on a few sites now just to get a feel for what people are saying and it's pretty amazing. Amazing in that there are a good number of people that are saying things like, "stop taking things so seriously". I wouldn't have as much an issue with what this guy did if he went up to a wall of monitors on display, shut them off for a bit and turned them back on, while I personally don't think it's all the funny, I suppose getting a couple of tech support people to freak out about why 10 monitors all of a sudden stopped working might be humorous. On the other hand, this guy spent quite a bit of time walking around the show with one mission, to disrupt as many presentations as he possibly could. Brilliant move to video tape it and show the world, but that's another story... In a few former jobs I've presented on stage at these types of shows for as few as two people and as many as 400 (not a show, but a local user group).</P>
<P>The preparation that goes into one of these is quite intense and what makes this particular prank upsetting is that many of the presenters are sales people who have invited large clients to their booth. If I couldn't get out to see a client for whatever reason, but knew they were going to a show we'd set up a time that they'd come and see my presentation and we'd talk after. Many times it was a presentation that meant a few thousands dollars worth of commissions for me. Now, would a monitor going out cost me a sale? No. Would my reaction to that monitor going out cost me a sale? Maybe if I couldn't handle the pressure or the situation, but that's my problem. The only issue is that the people attending these shows, particularly one as big as CES, only have a small amount of time to see a presentation before needing to move on so they can see everything they came to see. If this guy comes up, shuts off my monitors, turns them back on, turns them off, etc., etc., my guy might just decided we can't get our act together and move on. Could that cost me a sale? Yes, because now my company and I don't look professional.</P>
<P>Before you jump all over me about not being prepared, I would like you think about the pre-show meeting where people sit around thinking of plans for "what if..." How many companies have someone that would come up with a "what if some jackass comes up and starts turning our monitors on and off?" How can you prevent that? Small piece of tape? Not if I need to control my monitor's sound or something during a day. I can assure you more companies will have that plan, but very few probably thought about it before now. What's next, do we have to be concerned about someone throwing water balloons while we present? Do we have to worry about someone coming in with a dog? Do we have to plan for hecklers? Sorry, but you can't prepare for everything that comes up because you expect people to be professional when you attend a trade show. I organized one show 13 years ago that cost my company nearly $100,000 and we had a 10x20 booth (we had a sales meeting at the same time and took 22 people).</P>
<P>I agree with the previous poster, how would these guys feel if their site was hacked once a week and then put back up, then hacked again, then restored? Hey, it's only a prank, lighten up guys, you don't need to pay your rent this month with those ad dollars you just lost. It is a big deal when you mess around with someone's livelyhood, but until you're paying a mortgage, putting a kid through college and trying to make enough money to pay your employees, you don't think about those things.</P> <p>lamontef</p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<p>The cameraman's behavior was unprofessional and immature, and as a tech journalist I can't support it.</p>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#c3680505">whiskey</a>: Well, I don't work for Motorola, Panasonic, Dish, Dream Gear, Intel... or Gawker Media.</p> <p><a href="http://www.starzantees.com">nojo</a></p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#c3679323">sing4england</a>: hey, ya big fucking retard.. brian didn't do it... the cameraman did,. so why don't you point your faulty aggression elsewhere.. go eat some fish and chips or something ya giant crying vag.</p> <p>savager</p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#c3680182">nojo</a>: Arguments about fucking other people jobs up.  Journalistic decorum? How about good old plain decency?</p>
<p>Where do you work NOJO? Maybe Gizmodo can go there too.</p> <p>whiskey</p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<p>Arguments over journalistic decorum at a <i>trade show.</i> Love it.</p> <p><a href="http://www.chrischrischrisshow.com">nojo</a></p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<p>Whether you like it or not, Brian, CES is about the exhibitors, period.  If you want to be considered a journalist, then try to follow the first rule of journalism: don't make yourself the story.  The companies that exhibit at CES pay a crapload of money for the right to demo their stuff to potential customers.  Just because Gizmodo (or anyone else for that matter) finds the demos boring or stupid doesn't give them the right to be disruptive.  What sucks is that Gizmodo's stupid prank and even stupider defense of it perpetuates the stereotypes about bloggers and makes it harder for those bloggers who take their jobs seriously  to be taken seriously by the people they cover.  Brian, just give up trying to justify this. And fire the douche who did it.</p> <p>KevininSeattle</p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<P>I have to agree with the majority of commenters, it was a juvenile prank and, to be honest, the site should apolgize. Pulling jokes on people is one thing, interfering with someone's job is quite another.</P>
<P>You've been to trade shows -- you know you only have a moment or two to communicate your message ... if the monitor goes out, the message is that the products aren't reliable. The people there had NO possible way of knowing why the monitors turned off ... can't you understand that? Those companies paid a large cost there -- personally, I think they should attempt to recoup the cost of the presentations you guys interupted.</P> <p>jayntampa</p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<p>I remember doing stuff like this; we'd use universal remotes to shut off TVs during presentations and stuff.</p>
<p>Except we were in grade school when we did that.</p>
<p>Very professional, Gizmodo.</p> <p><a href="http://chenry.livejournal.com">chenry</a></p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#c3655128">Brian Lam</a>: come one you interrupted sales demostrations, you were fucking up the  motorola dude... do you have any idea of what kind of stress the tech guys have to keep those tv's running? do you know how important was the presentation for the Motorola dude? your childish, idiotic, snobbery prank only shows that you don't respect anyone because you have self labeled as above everyone, RESPECT BRIAN FUCKING RESPECT... this is what is all about, if you fucking turn off the tv at gizmodo is one thing, if you go fuck up the work of other people isn't funny at all, you are not respecting them, with what you have been telling, you are destroying the credibility of Gizmodo -what is left of it, the fanboysim, the one sided notes, the stupid and less than informative articles-, also you have opened the doors for other idiots like you to start doing "pranks" and being the headache of people WORKING AND EARNING THEIR SALARIES at electronic conventions... are you happy with this? as said before  RESPECT OTHER PEOPLE!.</p>
<p>It is surprising that at this time you still believe it was not such a big deal, your thick skull can't understand that thanks to that prank affects a community as a whole -the community of tech bloggers-.</p>
<p>Yet you have been sitting cowardly behind your monitor, writing a half ass apology with a video that shows no remorse, without getting in contact with the people that was affected thanks to your stupid team's prank, BRAVO, what a man that takes responsibility for his and his team's action!</p>
<p>And finally stop believing Gizmodo is the only and irreplaceable resource for vendors to get their gadgets known, there better written, less fanboyish, with more information sites that have been eating your toes for a long time, if you loose contact with the companies you fall dude.. as simple as that and other that will behave maturely will gladly accept the position gizmodo has.</p>
<p>Yet again for someone who is afraid of looking naked women -something that should be natural- isn't so surprising to see such idiotic, childish, irresponsible, immature, responses.</p> <p>sing4england</p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<P>This "prank" as it has been labeled breaks the bond of trust between a memeber of the press and everyone else. Compare this to a reporter turning off the lights at a White House press conference. Would it make the people in on the joke snicker? Sure, but like all juvenile, uncreative, and cruel "pranks" it is only funny to those in on it, everyone else is would be worried that something is wrong or worse someone might be in danger. But of course the kids that pulled this "prank" would never think of this. I would wager that all of the participants of this dubious act are under the age of 25, however, you will not always be. How funny will it be in 20 years when some kid pulls a prank like this, runs your business presentation, costs your company millions of dollars in business and ruins your shot at a promotion or a bonus. Then you get to go home and tell you son (or daughter) that you won't be able to help them with college like you expected to. Or how about down the road when you are trying to get a real job and and the butt you are trying to kiss is attached to the toes you stepped on at CES.<BR>Does my scenario sound far-fetched to you? Well, my only response to that is good, because I'm getting older and I appreciate how much easier you make it in the professional work-place for me to succeed where you fail. See the longer you are unable to make it through the day without making fart jokes to your boss, the longer I know that our bosses will never give you anything important to do.</P>
<P>In closing, please save all those snark comments up until you have something better than, "Those stiff tech people are dumb for not knowing how to turn their monitors on" or, "thank God Gizmodo has the balls to do this", or finally, "You're just jealous that you didn't think of it first". Oh we thought of it, we threw cherry bombs down the toilets in junior high school. Then when we got caught, we were suspended and our parents had to pay for the repairs. Now that was a prank.</P></BR> <p>JGizzy</p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#c3655128">Brian Lam</a>: As an Editor, you're single handedly destroying the credibility of Gizmodo by saying this is way Gizmodo conducts themselves.  I'll admit I laughed, but it's ignorant to shut off TV's in the middle of a presentation.  I guess you were completely oblivious to the fact that you were invited to report rather causing shenanigans in the name of ruining presentations.  I see both sides of the argument, but did you not have the journalistic integrity along with being so inconsiderate to do such an childish act?  <br>
I visit Kotaku daily, and I remember Tubgirl, which I let slide.  At this rate, apologies won't help if you continue to use shortsighted logic in your pranks.  I'm not saying you have to stop having fun, but at least think of the repercussions of your actions against your blog before other conventions stop inviting you, or you lose more traffic.  I'm not trying to bash you, I'm trying to warn you before you cause irreparable damage to your blog's credibility.</p> <p>bluesquareapple</p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<p>I almost didn't register, because the prevailing opinion here is clear.  Clearly most people here have never had a corporate job in sales &amp; marketing, and don't appreciate the gravity of what was done.  That's fine.  Mock me all you want.  You've motivated me to do something I rarely do--write letters.  To you, to Phil Torrone and Make magazine for colluding, to the CEA, and anyone else that may occur later.  The best part is, I don't have to work hard to make a persuasive letter--you've done it for me.  I'll post the letter to the CEA here.</p>
<p>-------cut------</p>
<p>I've worked the floor at CES as an exhibitor.</p>
<p>What Gizmodo did was appalling on many levels, and I now read that Brian Lam has been sanctioned (banned) from future events.  I'm writing you today to argue that this is not a strong enough punishment.  Gizmodo and their parent, Gawker media, need to be banned permanently from CES.  Why so harsh?  Because they don't believe they did anything wrong.</p>
<p>Even if you were to ignore the poor judgement of publishing the activities in the first place (what sensible editor would publish their employee disobeying a direct order and interfering with press events?  What sensible editor would fail to fire or heavily sanction such an employee immediately?)... even cutting Gizmodo and Gawker the slack to say, "Ok.  One renegade employee does not a company make, we must have a measured response".. one must consider Brian Lam's retort on valleywag (7th comment from the top:  <a href="http://valleywag.com/343531/cnet-editor-proves-theres-no-difference-between-press-and-blogger">[valleywag.com]</a>)</p>
<p>[redacted]</p>
<p>See?  It's a joke!  Instantly turning off 40 TVs on the show floor with customers around (and from experience, no remote controls available for exhibitors to quickly rectify this) is a "joke".  We pay big money to be there, to be seen, and to present a certain image.</p>
<p>These people are not news media.  They act like petulant children and must be treated as such.  I implore you to punish them more strongly.</p>
<p>----- cut -----</p>
<p>So in closing, I will encourage you to keep it up.  The more you defend these actions... and the more that people who criticize these actions are lambasted as humorless, the more severe the consequences will be.</p> <p>bobj444</p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<P>Was the stunt funny? No. Was it immature? Yes.</P>
<P>That the difference between bloggers and pros.</P>
<P>This stunt is typical of the level of professionalism displayed at Gizmodo.</P>
<P>Hopefully Brian and the rest of the crew at Gizmodo have learned a lesson about acting like jackasses and biting the hand that feeds them.</P>
<P>Everyone has to grow up soemtime.</P> <p>joxenford</p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#c3654701">OMG! Ponies!</a>: you really are insane.. you know that? I THINK YOUR OPINION HAS BEEN NOTED!. hence the topping of my list of waaahmbulance drivers. If this is how you react to a prank I wonder how you react when someone actually wrongs you..  now, stop, take a deep breath, take a look in the mirror, and repeat after me: even if my opinion was as important as i think it is, people have heard me.</p>
<p>@<a href="#c3655128">Brian Lam</a>: Brian, seriously, you don't need to listen to all this crap.. it's not that big of a deal.. honestly a lot of your fans come to your site for it's color, and style, and humor.. I know i do. And if I'm correct they banned one person right?.. but even if they banned all of gizmodo.. it wouldn't be that big of a deal.. CES is cool, but it's still a bunch of salesman pushing products.. I think you guys do a good enough job reporting straight from your favorite chair. And I guarantee 90% of the people claiming to never visit gizmodo again are full of crap. why?.. because when it comes down to it.. you give a fair, real world evaluation of our favorite gadgets, while keeping it interesting, which isn't that easy in the tech realm. Turn into another cnet.. no thank you.. please don't let the overpopulation of tight asses make you reanalyze your blogging strategy.</p>
<p>again.. @<a href="#c3654701">OMG! Ponies!</a> <a href="http://www.stfu.se/">[www.stfu.se]</a></p> <p>savager</p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<P>Now what would be funny is if Motorola followed Gizmodo around next year and shined a high power green laser into their cameras all day. What a hoot.</P> <p>The Brain</p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<p>Unplug the Gizmodo servers right in the middle of Macworld. Then have Brian Lam come telling the world how it was such a funny "prank" to have their business down during one of their busiest times of the year.</p> <p>urkel</p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<p>This story was probably the best entertainment/edutainment/advertainment to come out of CES this week. I had the same laugh but OMG reaction to the video. Oddly enough, I probably got one of the best feels for CES out of that one particular video.</p>
<p>It was unfortunate, but I hope the Gizmodo guys don't get in <i>too much trouble</i> for their Denial of Service attack. It was educational.</p>
<p>PS: Are the vendors going to secure their IR ports next year?</p> <p>mantari</p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#c3677494">DudeAsInCool</a>: Because you're screwing with people's jobs here. It's one thing to pull off a stunt that has a lot of flash and bang and little more. It's another thing entirely to directly mess with someone's important presentation or the display booth they spent days setting up.</p>
<p>Trade shows are no fun at all. Long hours, lots of hard work, and enough idiots to make a saint pull out his hair. All for a little OT pay and some airline miles. The last thing anyone needs is some sophmoric little stunt making life harder than it already is.</p>
<p>Now if you'll excuse me, I need to go ball up and rock back-and-forth in a corner to the Trade Show Flashbacks this post brought up.</p> <p>sulayman</p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#c3655128">Brian Lam</a>: "Did you see that we got Bill Gates to cop to Vista not being so good today?"</p>
<p>Oh please. It's not like you cornered and badgered an answer out of him. You interviewed him, asked him a pretty broad question, and HE VOLUNTEERED a coy little remark about Vista. That's hardly what I'd call "getting him to cop to it."</p> <p>sulayman</p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<p>Why shouldn't bloggers add a little entertainment to their reporting and to dull proceedings like CES.</p> <p><a href="http://www.beatking.com">DudeAsInCool</a></p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<p>(1) Bloggers aren't media.  Blogs have opinion, language, color, and style.</p>
<p>(2) Bloggers only want media credentials to get access to cool information, so they can blog about it.</p>
<p>(3) What gadget news did we get in the past week?  The only thing I heard about was a large panasonic.  That's not a gadget.</p>
<p>(4) you can't ban gizmodo.  They will enter as consumers and blog.</p>
<p>(5) even if you ban gizmodo, consumers won't miss out because there wasn't any good gadget information during the past week.</p>
<p>(6) the gadget news is all Apple these days.  That's coming up in the near future.  That's not CES.</p>
<p>(7) the Gizmodo video brought more attention to these TV vendors than they would have received otherwise.</p>
<p>(8) what financial damage was incurred?  It was a short little bit.  If your tech vendor couldn't figure out how to turn the TV back on, that's a personal problem.</p>
<p>(9) we found out from CES that the best gadget was the TV-B-Gone remote.  That's a cool gadget.</p>
<p>(10) Let's not forget that people read blogs and bloggers get credentials because bloggers give free advertising.  It's too bad that you can't control that advertising with a boring press release.</p>
<p>(11) CES must not forget that their audience, the so-called consumer, blogs when he/she is not at CES.</p> <p><a href="http://www.jetsongreen.com">Preston</a></p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<P>This has to be one of the lamest flame wars I've ever seen. Whether you two are journalists or bloggers is irrelevant. You both are acting like big unproffesional babies!</P>
<P>You should both be ashamed and reprimanded by your respective companies. I would also believe an apology is deserved by both of you....Grow up already. This town is big enough for both of you...</P>
<P>Dad has spoken!</P> <p>cidman2001</p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<P>There's no difference between what they did and someone walking into any other event and disrupting it. Air-horn at a wedding or funeral? A culprit doesn't get to pick when an event is suitably irrelevant to the victimized party that they can do and ruin it. It might make no impact, it might cause people to lose jobs - it's not for Gizmodo to make the call if it was just a funny prank or not. The impacted party gets to make that call.</P>
<P>Bloggers have worked hard to try to be accepted as serious journalists - this just set back those efforts by more than a step or two.</P> <p>billrw3</p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<p>@Brian Lam: Different is one thing, but dumb is dumb. And I didn't say the whole site is dumb, just this stunt. Please resume normal blogging. Thank you.</p> <p>rafe</p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#c3655128">Brian Lam</a>: "Crave. (Which I like, and do not call stupid.)"</p>
<p>Okay, I'll do it: Crave is stupid. Nothing personal, CNet dudes, but come ON. You know it's stupid. Readers know it's stupid. It's stupid. Stupid, stupid, stupid.</p> <p><a href="http://www.mindhacks.com/blog/files/2005/09/giantsquid.jpg">fishneversleep</a></p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<p>Seriously the most cranky wet blanket article ever.</p>
<p>People go to trade shows to gawk and have fun. Gizmodo was a bit childish, but come on - if these companies are really so incensed by this prank, let them pull their advertising from Gawker properties and switch to RF remotes.</p>
<p>Yeah. That'll happen.</p> <p><a href="http://www.google.com">CaliforniaCajun</a></p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<p>It was a childish stunt, plain and simple.  I'm thinking less of you guys than I do Scoble - well done!</p> <p>dalejo</p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<p>Whatever. These lame-ass consumer electronics companies should be thanking the Gizmodo guys for stirring up some excitement around CES. Hell, I bet this is the first time most of us have even thought about Motorola in a year. Have you ever seen a lamer presentation?</p>
<p>These toy companies owe every bit of caché they have left to the two gadget blogs. Without Gizmodo and Engadget, Walt Mossberg would still be the only consumer tech column worth reading.</p> <p>OpenTransport</p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Brian, tech people are too fucking uptight. Live a little, it was a hilarious prank. Something that would make Cacophonists proud. CES needed a little culture jamming and I'm stoked to see Giz has the balls to do it. Don't let the uptight nannybots get to you Brian.</p> <p>GinaMuchava</p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#c3655128">Brian Lam</a>: The dumb thing was posting it on the internet.  Or at least not getting someone up above to give you a go-ahead to post it on the internet.</p> <p><a href="http://www.omg-ponies.com">OMG! Ponies!</a></p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#c3654701">OMG! Ponies!</a>: Definition of Press to ponies: Compliance with corporate america. Great.</p> <p><a href="http://Http://gizmodo.com">Brian Lam</a></p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#c3654701">OMG! Ponies!</a>: @<a href="#c3653897">rafe</a>: Relax. It was a joke. Just because we don't do things the way you do, I don't see why that is stupid. The site has proved its intelligence. Did you see that we got Bill Gates to cop to Vista not being so good today? The point is that if we do things the way you do them at CNet, we're CNet. If you do things the way Giz and Engadget do them, you're actually...Crave. (Which I like, and do not call stupid.) Why is this so emotionally disturbing to you both? Motorola, well that was a mistake, as my explicit orders to my video person were to not interrupt press conferences. But that is for me and Moto to sort out tomorrow.</p> <p><a href="http://Http://gizmodo.com">Brian Lam</a></p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<p>No, the difference is that the press doesn't sabotage the presentations.</p>
<p>According to Gizmodo, <a href="http://gizmodo.com/341104/ces-separates-the-wheat-from-the-chaff-with-blogger-and-press-badges">Jason Chen or Gizmodo was given a "blogger" pass</a>, not a press pass.</p>
<p>I might add that the difference between a blogger and a journalist is that a journalist has an editor who decides what to publish - to prevent things like "We sabotaged CES and here's the proof that we did it" from getting posted on the internet.</p> <p><a href="http://www.omg-ponies.com">OMG! Ponies!</a></p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<p><br>@<a href="#c3653897">rafe</a>: "I fact-checked that twice."</p>
<p>I bet you even ran it through spell-check too; no confusing you with a blogger then!</p> <p><a href="http://techmerkin.wordpress.com/">Rock tha Hizzee</a></p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<p>No matter what color Gizmodo's CES badges were, the site is known as a blog, is it not? Its writers are bloggers. What they did was stupid. I fact-checked that twice.</p> <p>rafe</p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#c3653346">rafe</a>: Would have helped you to spot that photographic evidence of Gizmodo's press credentials before you wrote the item, wouldn't it?</p> <p><a href="http://www.valleywag.com/">Owen Thomas</a></p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<p>What? "Instead of all of us being united under the umbrella of press, some of us were arbitrarily deemed bloggers and others press."</p>
<p><a href="http://gizmodo.com/341104/ces-separates-the-wheat-from-the-chaff-with-blogger-and-press-badges">[gizmodo.com]</a></p> <p>rafe</p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<P>Seriously Needleman, enjoy yourself more. I think your just upset because you didn't think og it first. Poor sport!</P>
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