Steve Jobs doesn't get the kids of today - Valleywag Comments

Steve Jobs doesn't get the kids of today

hybrid8 — Wed, 13 Jun 2007 13:10:46 PDT

I can honestly suggest a proof-read the next time a story even remotely similar to this one crosses through the brain of an editor.

It flows like a brick down a river.

Helio and Microsoft can both do a couple of things. They can talk and they can watch. You know, the same things so many people did while the iPod became the failure it is today for Apple.

At $600 it's not likely a phone I'll buy, but it stands head and shoulders above all other phones in that price segment and most of those that cost far more (there are enough of them).

Is it likely to have 1.0-itis? Probably. Is that going to hurt its sales? Maybe. Will it sell into the millions anyway? Definitely.

hybrid8

Steve Jobs doesn't get the kids of today

Implode — Wed, 13 Jun 2007 11:30:05 PDT

I knew he didn't get this generation when he said iTunes would never offer a subscription service, saying "People want to own their music". The way I see it, artists own their music (and most certainly NOT the recording labels). I just want more access to it.

Implode

Steve Jobs doesn't get the kids of today

InferiorOlive — Wed, 13 Jun 2007 11:02:30 PDT

since when do we call it a "querty" keyboard? I really hope this isn't the 1337 spelling

InferiorOlive

Steve Jobs doesn't get the kids of today

Tim Faulkner — Wed, 13 Jun 2007 11:01:13 PDT

Jmdecombe points out that the "smartphone" market already has two segments: media-addicted social teenagers and crackberry-addicted corporate adults. If the rest of the market remains focused on these two segments, they'll be missing Apple's efforts to mainstream the product.

Conversely, the translation could be: focusing on metro-based Korean teens will not save you in an expanding market.

Tim Faulkner

Steve Jobs doesn't get the kids of today

petekazanjy — Wed, 13 Jun 2007 11:00:43 PDT

I personally have a Nokia n800 for goofing around with on the couch. I can attest that its touchscreen keyboard is hardly any different than fiddling with my Treo.

The fact that the iPhone will ostensibly have corrective typing software that looks at what keys you "meant" to hit will probably make its keyboard more usable than any of the current thumb-boards out there, whether Helio, RIM, Treo, or otherwise.

Blackberry's new "Curve" just raised the bar with a spellchecker, but this is substantially different than inline correction as it happen.

Ultimately Dayton's spin is pretty limp.

petekazanjy

Steve Jobs doesn't get the kids of today

pimpmyPR — Wed, 13 Jun 2007 10:51:59 PDT

Never buy a 1.0 Apple product. Or any product for that matter. So far we've heard that the Jesus-phone is going to revolutionize mobile web surfing via it's super hot-tottie Safari browser (which you Mr Developer can now write apps for). Apple has been pretty silent (at least I haven't seen anything) on what web formats the MobileGodBrowser will support...Flash? PDF? Various Video formats? Anyone? Bueller? Anyone? If it doesn't support those....well it's going to be just as wank as surfing the web on Ye Olde Blackberry.

pimpmyPR

Steve Jobs doesn't get the kids of today

GoodEmployee — Wed, 13 Jun 2007 10:48:07 PDT

Speaking of Jesus - Steve is looking VERY Hot Jesus in that archival pic.

GoodEmployee

Steve Jobs doesn't get the kids of today

jYopp — Wed, 13 Jun 2007 10:00:57 PDT

@monkeyrotica: I, too miss my Newton. It's in the top of my closet with its 2400bps modem and external keyboard, hopefully not being corroded by its AA batteries. I was hoping for a reincarnation of the platform, but this is good.

If the iPhone works with a bluetooth keyboard, or Apple releases some reasonable accessory thumb-board for the iPod connector, then it's got a much better chance with the kids. There are too many easy fixes for this to be a real problem, and barring all else, it could just be added in the second generation. It's ONE model, pundits!

jYopp

Steve Jobs doesn't get the kids of today

Nyarlathotep — Wed, 13 Jun 2007 10:00:55 PDT

I've been told that the onscreen keyboard is actually pretty quick to use in dvorak mode. It's barely tolerable in querty though, I only managed 11wpm when fiddling with it.

What'll really kill the iphone is the absence of HSDPA capability. Who the hell pays $600 for a smartphone without HSDPA?

Nyarlathotep

Steve Jobs doesn't get the kids of today

jmdecombe — Wed, 13 Jun 2007 09:59:41 PDT

SkyBoy is obviously in fear of Helio's imminent demise (or at best relegation to an even smaller niche). Does he know that Steve has kids of his own, and thus gets the most direct and honest feedback there is? Does he know that a 52-year old executive may actually deal with more emails in a normal day than a 14-year old kid, and thus may end up inputting more characters each day as a result? And that therefore Steve would already know if the touch screen keyboard wasn't working. Lastly, does he know that typing accuracy is even more important to someone of that age and position because you don't want to end up looking like a fool who makes a half dozen typos on every single line? Good try anyway...

jmdecombe

Steve Jobs doesn't get the kids of today

monkeyrotica — Wed, 13 Jun 2007 09:21:20 PDT

Yup. No jebusfone for me until there's some decent querty implementation. Or they dig up and dust off their handwriting recognition. My Helio Ocean sucks for a variety of reasons, but at least i can get text into it at a reasonable rate.

Still missing my Newton 2100.

monkeyrotica