<![CDATA[Dear bubble veterans: We get it. Now shut up, you're harshing our buzz. - Valleywag Comments]]> <![CDATA[Dear bubble veterans: We get it. Now shut up, you're harshing our buzz. - Valleywag Comments]]> <![CDATA[Dear bubble veterans: We get it. Now shut up, you're harshing our buzz.]]> @Randolf: Randolf, I agree with you pretty much on everything you've said so far on SL. I just think its HILARIOUS how worked up people get on Valleywag over a bunch of silly business in the valley. I think in general you do a great job defending your opinions. It just really amuses me that you continually focus on ripping LL a new asshole (although it may be well deserved), and getting in arguments with a bunch of losers. Although, I guess that's the whole fun of reading and participating on this blog.

That is pretty jacked up that people send you threatening e-mails. If anything it just shows they are childish cowards.

samcal

]]> <![CDATA[Dear bubble veterans: We get it. Now shut up, you're harshing our buzz.]]> Denton is right. Any hedge funds which existed 96-00 were invariably not involved in the tech bubble directly. Those that were around were doing mainly currency arbitrage or other global macro stuff. Today there is a place where VCs and HFs overlap.

I've never said Second Life doesn't represent something very important is happening. In fact, anyone who ever bothers to RTFA knows I've gone to great lengths to draw a distinction between my criticisms of SL and LL's business model and virtual worlds in general. I've also stated such in multiple interviews. All I'm saying in LL is f-ing it up.

That makes me a hater, whatever that means, in the fanbois' eyes. Tell you what samcal bud, I'll send you the next half dozen email threats I get for daring to pass on the Kool aid, k?

Randolf

]]> <![CDATA[Dear bubble veterans: We get it. Now shut up, you're harshing our buzz.]]> pah. Be smart enough to cash out this time. That's the only thing we bubblers learned. We think it's great it can happen a second time! Gives us stragglers a second chance!
So now - get your VC money now while you can. It aint gonna last forever. I had a good laugh a few months ago when a well-respected VC commented that youtube "invented web video" on his blog. Remember...these are the people giving you their money. Just nod and take it and run!

poder

]]> <![CDATA[Dear bubble veterans: We get it. Now shut up, you're harshing our buzz.]]> Although unfamiliar with the Nick Douglas backs tory, if he is the gentlemen pictured in the photograph accompanying this article I feel its safe to assume he was old enough to have been part of the telegraph bubble.

nattarbox

]]> <![CDATA[Dear bubble veterans: We get it. Now shut up, you're harshing our buzz.]]> @Nick Douglas: Hunh, Nick, I think you've got your financial history wrong. Hedge funds weren't active last time, and they are during this boom.

Nick Denton

]]> <![CDATA[Dear bubble veterans: We get it. Now shut up, you're harshing our buzz.]]> @ billo, it's so precious how niave you are. Now go start the next wanna be YouTube. Please.

pillsandpez

]]> <![CDATA[Dear bubble veterans: We get it. Now shut up, you're harshing our buzz.]]> What made the Bubble a big deal? The hedge funds and the stock market. Those elements just aren't there now, and the only huge numbers are the prices Google, Viacom, Microsoft and Yahoo pay (and can afford to pay) for successful sites that need a revenue model within a larger network.

Even if Second Life is a waste of money (and while Denton keeps calling it rubbish, I believe it's at least an important step toward a real and useful virtual world), whose money is it wasting? A few VCs.

The employees are still learning in productive jobs. their careers would be far from over if Second Life died today; their skills could apply to the myriad MMORPGs and virtual communities being built.

Nick Douglas

]]> <![CDATA[Dear bubble veterans: We get it. Now shut up, you're harshing our buzz.]]> Randolf,

Nick and Nick are great, but you are still my #1 hater.

samcal

]]> <![CDATA[Dear bubble veterans: We get it. Now shut up, you're harshing our buzz.]]> Nick, amen to that. Of course the big difference now is that we're making money. My first go-round was a complete sink for venture capital, and I doubt that the company ever got more than $500k in revenue.

What the cranks don't talk about is that today, unlike in 1996, if you get traffic you can make a lot of money with advertising. And the advertisers can get real leads and conversions. It's an actual economy now, not just a concept of an economy.

billo

]]> <![CDATA[Dear bubble veterans: We get it. Now shut up, you're harshing our buzz.]]> @ Randolf, are you kidding me? Very few sites are making money. Everybody's full of shit in this business so it's not like you can trust any of the numbers anyhow.

The only difference between then and now is that you can do things so cheaply it doesn't matter.

pillsandpez

]]> <![CDATA[Dear bubble veterans: We get it. Now shut up, you're harshing our buzz.]]> Nick,

Well said, and I was here in the Valley for round 1. I'd say the sock-puppet factor is but a tiny fraction of what it was circa 99. How about for starters the fact that so many of the contenders today actually make money (or have a believable path to do so). We sorta forgot about that part of the equation a decade ago.

Still, some of today's darlings are way up there on the puppet-o-meter. Second Life anyone?

Randolf

]]> <![CDATA[Dear bubble veterans: We get it. Now shut up, you're harshing our buzz.]]> Yea......what Nick said!!!....LOL

Adding that anyone who is in a constant "fight" to try and make themselves relevant to almost everything they come into contact with needs to be taken out back.

Scoble gets a few (free) drinks in him and all of a sudden he is the second coming. Relax as you'll soon end up like Justin TV because you have the same attitude.


OMMS

]]> <![CDATA[Dear bubble veterans: We get it. Now shut up, you're harshing our buzz.]]> @Scobleizer: Oh, a couple of other things, Scoble: first of all, I'm writing most of the site at the moment, including most of the posts about your alternating bloggerhea and blogging strikes. Not Nick Douglas. Confusing: all these Nicks. And the only disclosure I have to make is this: that I find Podtech broadcasts insufferably boring, and, yes, I am prejudiced against the company -- because I retain a naive belief that blog posts and broadcasts should convey either news, intelligence or humor, and sometimes, even, a couple of those qualities simultaneously.

Nick Denton

]]> <![CDATA[Dear bubble veterans: We get it. Now shut up, you're harshing our buzz.]]> As far as traffic goes, no need to guess: our Sitemeter numbers are public. I haven't
http://www.sitemeter.com/?a=stats&s=s23valleywag&r=33

Michael Arrington, at Techcrunch, leaves his Sitemeter numbers in the open. I'm not holding my breath for similar transparency from Scoble and Podtech.

Nick Denton

]]> <![CDATA[Dear bubble veterans: We get it. Now shut up, you're harshing our buzz.]]> Who the fuck is Scoble? I work on Sand Hill Road, and I constantly hear the VC Partners and Assoc's talking about what they've read on Valleywag, and I constantly see it up on their screens...

So my guess, lots of readers.. just none interested in clicking on your link..

Whocares

]]> <![CDATA[Dear bubble veterans: We get it. Now shut up, you're harshing our buzz.]]> I find you so sexy when you write. But, this article started out really good and then it sucked because the reality is, we all saw 50 or 60,000 people lose their jobs overall and the market sucked ass for years where you didn't know if you were going to be able to retire someday or not. So, I agree with the mindset but I disagree with the rest of this. And, really, we only all say it because the newbies are THAT annoying.

pillsandpez

]]> <![CDATA[Dear bubble veterans: We get it. Now shut up, you're harshing our buzz.]]> Nick, I think I like Valleywag best when it's your well-written editorials. And I couldn't agree more with the sentiment here. Bravo.

Scoble, you are like the devil. Doesn't matter when or where, just say your name and you appear. Anyway I would rather click on goat.cx than any link I know goes to one of your hell of annoying sites/posts/whatever.

eth0

]]> <![CDATA[Dear bubble veterans: We get it. Now shut up, you're harshing our buzz.]]> Hmmm, the more you talk about Scoble the lower both of our ratings go! http://snapshot.compete.com/scobleizer.com+valleywag.com?m...

Scobleizer

]]> <![CDATA[Dear bubble veterans: We get it. Now shut up, you're harshing our buzz.]]> EVERYONE reads Valleywag. Just no one clicks from here to Scoble.

ScalaWag

]]> <![CDATA[Dear bubble veterans: We get it. Now shut up, you're harshing our buzz.]]> Your entire podcast network is smaller than our little two-writer site? Shouldn't you have kept that quiet?

This is a Scoble imposter, right?

Nick Douglas

]]> <![CDATA[Dear bubble veterans: We get it. Now shut up, you're harshing our buzz.]]> Well said, Nick. More rants like this one please. Make the next one about how people say "Web 2.0 is dead, the new hot shit is Web 3.0" when most of us aren't done with 2.0 yet.

m0nty

]]> <![CDATA[Dear bubble veterans: We get it. Now shut up, you're harshing our buzz.]]> Oh, and I survived the bubble. And, no, I won't link to you. :-)

Scobleizer

]]> <![CDATA[Dear bubble veterans: We get it. Now shut up, you're harshing our buzz.]]> Oh, and you should disclose that we turned down your request to sponsor your private site. Shakedown money? Sponsor us or we deride you on our site? Yeeehhhaaaa!

Scobleizer

]]> <![CDATA[Dear bubble veterans: We get it. Now shut up, you're harshing our buzz.]]> Watch out Nick, PodTech is coming for you! http://snapshot.compete.com/valleywag.com+podtech.net?metr...

Speaking of which, you linked to me, what, eight times in the past four weeks. My logs only show about 800 visitors. Damn that's pathetic. I thought EVERYONE read Valleywag. Now I know the truth.

Scobleizer

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