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		    <description><![CDATA[<p>TL:DR</p> <p><a href="n/a">Shadowlayer</a></p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<P>I am glad you set the records straight Elon. I still have one important question to ask you:</P>
<P>Why didn't you show what a good patriot you are to your home country by firstly making sure that South Africa is on the list of supported countries before you decided to sell X/PayPal to eBay?</P> <p>WikusMoller</p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<P>I am glad you set the records straight Elon. I still have one important question to ask you?</P>
<P>Why didn't you show what a good patriot you are to your home country by firstly making sure that South Africa is on the list of supported countries before you decided to sell X/PayPal to eBay?</P> <p>WikusMoller</p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<p>I am no fan of discussing people in a public forum (I find gossip reprehensible due to its recursive and pointless nature) - so appologies in advance, however I new Elon for a year or so while living in Palo Alto way back in the mid 1990s - and have taken great interest in his ventures and achievements since then - including Space X. I have no (fiscal) interests in any of Elon's ventures and nothing to gain from this comment, but feel I should defend him: Elon is a (very) rare talent, blending exceptional technical skills with an intelligent, analytical and creative business head plus some credible ideas that are vital if we're all to make it into the next century in one piece. ((Tags: Tesla Motors, solar) Very few would be able to achieve what Elon has done in several lifetimes. Sadly, as is often the case in life, those who may at one time have worked or or been associated with a brilliant individual may later project any latent envy through cowardly indirect pot shots. Back when Elon was building Zip2, I would walk to his office on California Avenue from my apartment and no matter the time - day or night, he was always working - no time for social. To quote Gary Player: "The harder you work, the luckier you get."</p> <p>Wonderkid</p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<P>I checked SpaceX to find out if Elon had a place for folks to plug in nagging ideas and dreams that could possibly converted to reality for alternative space transport systems. Any suggestion for finding out if Elon would be interested in the following:</P>
<P>1. disposable high altitude lauch pads that float up a low cost -- 2. Extremely low frequency (elf)recieving sensors inside high temp "nuke temps" ceramic chambers tiggered by sound sensors [think of it as a spinning sensor fan linked to a mechanical vac-frictionless chamber where in space becomes perpetual motion machines -- free unlimited sound energy--to be packaged and used to power the telsas and another pw protected recievers.....enough said!!</P>
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The answer to Q1 is a long story, but it is worth saying that I never intended to run X/PayPal for very long.  Unlike space exploration or global warming, the Internet payments business was just not something I wanted to spend my life on :)  In Dec 1999, Mike Moritz and I actually hired a professional CEO (formerly of Intuit) to run X/PayPal.  That very short-lived exercise didn't work out well, forcing me back into the CEO role.</p>
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The book is just a really bad piece of writing intended to puff up the role of the author (Jackson) and his funder & mentor (Thiel).  It was not specifically intended to attack me.</p>
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My pic is back on the Sequoia website.  They rotate those pics every month or so, cycling between all the major Sequoia companies.</p>
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Regarding question 4, as I state in the rebuttal piece, it was a concious effort on the part of X (at Mike Moritz's suggestion and recorded in the X board minutes) to play up online banking, even though the primary focus was email payments.  Mike wanted to avoid having other VCs fund competing email payments companies.</p> <p>elonmusk</p>]]></description>
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Very helpful comments from Elon and David, but inquiring minds (still) want to know...</p>
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1. Why was Elon replaced as CEO of the combined company?<br />
2. Why did a book paid for by a Paypal manager trash Elon?<br />
3. Why did Sequoia remove Elon from their website?<br />
4. Why, really, is Elon now making the odd argument that X.com wasn't an online bank? (At the time, he was telling every person, including the media, that he was creating an online bank.) Or that Paypal wasn't in the money transfer business before the merger? </p>
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Just wondering... </p> <p>SteveHeadcase</p>]]></description>
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The rebuttal piece I wrote references two articles (ref 1 and ref 2), which may be of interest:</p>
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1.  Los Angeles Times article by Josh Friedman, quoting David Sacks:  "…Musk developed a "viral marketing campaign," Sacks said: The firm paid $10 to every new PayPal customer as well as anyone who referred a new user to the system. The campaign fueled exponential growth."  The whole article is available for free at: <a href="http://www.globalsecurity.org/org/news/2003/030422-space01.htm">http://www.globalsecurity.org/org/news/2003/030422-space01...</a> or you can buy it from the LA Times at: <a href="http://pqasb.pqarchiver.com/latimes/access/327114431.html?dids=327114431:327114431&FMT=ABS&FMTS=ABS:FT&type=current&date=Apr+22%2C+2003&author=Josh+Friedman&pub=Los+Angeles+Times&edition=&startpage=C.1&desc=Entrepreneur+Tries+His+Midas+Touch+in+Space">http://pqasb.pqarchiver.com/latimes/access/327114431.html?...</a> <br />
2.  This article highlights two key points.  One, that Confinity's product was initially about beaming money tokens between Palm Pilots, not email payments, and the business model was making money on interest, which did not work at all: <a href="http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/7.11/streetcred.html?pg=14">http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/7.11/streetcred.html?pg...</a></p> <p>elonmusk</p>]]></description>
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I remember getting X.com's business plan in late 1999. I was reluctant to invest because I felt that a traditional software CEO (Bill Harris from Intuit) may have difficulty managing an internet pure play. While he resigned shortly after (which proved my point) my chance of investing had passed.</p>
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Elon Musk was 28 years old then which makes him all but 23 when he founded Zip2. It is easy to be impressed by his achievements. But why express jealousy or try to negate those achievements? I haven't been in contact with either Elon, Peter or Max but it seems that their impact "COLLECTIVELY" was/is very significant. I have yet to remember a company producing so many great entrepreneurs/investors: from Youtube to LinkedIn by way of Sequoia. </p>
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So the company took the name Paypal and not X. Does that not make Elon Musk a co-founder? So if X.com had been chosen, in your logic Peter and Max would not deserve the "co-founder" title?</p>
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Sorry I prefer to remember them as a team that achieved greatness. Ebay acquired a competitor of X/Paypal in 1999 which could have discouraged many. Not the Paypal team. They had huge customer/fraud issues which would have broken any other company. Not X/PayPal. </p>
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So let's leave jealousy and negativity to others. In Europe, CEOs with 100 times less achievements are often unbearably arrogant. Let's celebrate this X/Paypal bunch ability to remain nice people through their successes.</p>
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  </p> <p>alain</p>]]></description>
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actually i'd say this piece is one of the single most interesting backgrounders on PayPal i've seen in the past few years.</p>
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whether or not Elon's history is more accurate than others, there's at least a fair amount of credit to him & several others here that hadn't been previously discussed.</p>
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credit to David Sacks, Amy Rowe [Klement], Sanjay Bhargava and others mentioned is likely well deserved.  David & Amy ran a hell of an operation at PayPal for several years, and their contributions were quite significant, along with noted others by Peter, Max, Roelof, and the usual suspects.</p>
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(and given David's previous track record with PayPal and TYFS, i'd be pretty darn bullish on <a href="http://www.geni.com">Geni.com</a> too... that site rocks, and bears all the trademarks of Sacks "KISS dictatorship" ;)</p> <p><a href="http://500hats.typepad.com">DaveMcClure500Hats</a></p>]]></description>
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Now that is a founder story.</p> <p>rossmay</p>]]></description>
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A company I used to work with called Passmark had a guy named Bill Harris as their CEO.  He stated that he was CEO of paypal from 1999 to 2000.  Bill was on the board of earthline & RSA.  So my question is who ran paypal from 1999 to 2000, was it Peter Thiel, elon musk or bill harris?</p> <p>mredscr</p>]]></description>
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Elon is clearly a co-founder of PayPal. Were it not for the 50/50 merger of Confinity (started by Peter and Max) and X (started by Elon) in March 2000, both companies likely would have gone bankrupt instead of raising $100+ million dollars just before the crash as the undisputed leader in the payments space. The company's resulting success, in which everyone mentioned above participated in important ways, bestows more than enough credit to go around. <br />
-- David Sacks</p> <p>David-Sacks</p>]]></description>
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bourgeoisie -- I didn't understand your comment at all.</p> <p><a href="http://www.nickdenton.org">Nick Denton</a></p>]]></description>
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Slightly boring, but then again work is MORE boring right now.</p>
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With that said, it's always fun to see people being put in their place, so kudos for setting the record straight.</p>
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Congratulations on your success.</p> <p>bourgeoisie</p>]]></description>
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