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Six Apart's Brad boy is Googling a new idea

Brad Fitzpatrick's secret lairA Valleywag spy reports sighting Brad Fitzpatrick, the creator of LiveJournal and outgoing Six Apart executive, at Philz Coffee in San Francisco. Fitzpatrick was there with book publisher and geek icon Tim O'Reilly and David Recordon, a former Six Apart engineer who left to join VeriSign last year. The three were working on a presentation on "social network portability." Now, that's no surprise — Fitzpatrick has been openly interested in the idea of swapping personal information between websites for a while, and he and Recordon — who we hear, by the way, may be rejoining Six Apart — helped create the OpenID standard, which helps accomplish just that. No, what makes this geek sighting fascinating is that Fitzpatrick, we hear — though neither he nor Google has confirmed this — is headed to Google. And Google has been trying to get back in the social-network game.

Socialstream, a Google-backed research project at Carnegie Mellon University, fits right in with Fitzpatrick's and Recordon's interests. For Google, the notion of linking networks together, rather than trying to swim upstream and compete with MySpace and Facebook, makes perfect sense. Rather than trying to resurrect Google's failing Orkut network, Fitzpatrick could be joining Google to help it disrupt existing social networks' business models.

That's the likeliest plan for Fitzpatrick. But what to make of Recordon's rumored return to Six Apart? It seems strange on the surface for Recordon to be going back to the company just as Fitzpatrick, his good friend, is leaving. But good friends aren't always good coworkers. Recordon, by voting with his paycheck, seems to be signaling that Six Apart is not the truly troubled party here. It's Fitzpatrick.

What we hear, very quietly, from employees at Six Apart, where Fitzpatrick plans to work his last day on Friday, is that they're not at all sad to see Fitzpatrick go. Even LiveJournal loyalists, while showering the founder with praise, make a point of saying how little Fitzpatrick has contributed to the site he created since he sold it to Six Apart.

It all makes sense. "I'm not convinced I couldn't be just as helpful to Six Apart outside of Six Apart," he wrote recently in his LiveJournal. Practically speaking, technology that opens up social networks could benefit Six Apart's second-tier communities, LiveJournal and Vox, more than it helps the dominant players.

Then there's Fitzpatrick himself, a decidedly difficult employee. Coddled at Google by its lavish benefits and engineers-rule culture, the brilliant programmer will likely do fine. Faced with grown-up responsibilities at Six Apart, he veered between retreating and lashing out. Between business trips to Russia and a two-month sabbatical, he's spent relatively little time in the office this year, and what time he did spend wasn't pleasant, from all accounts, including Fitzpatrick's own.

Six Apart faces all sorts of challenges — not least of which is managing the mess of LiveJournal with which Fitzpatrick saddled the company. And, oddly enough for a blogging company, it struggles with coming right out and talking about its problems. But Fitzpatrick's departure, laced as it was with thinly veiled insults to his coworkers, we're now concluding, says more about him than the company he worked for. Leaving Six Apart, it seems, really is the best thing he could do for the company.

2:35 PM on Thu Aug 9 2007
By Owen Thomas
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  • Orkut is only "failing" right here in the USA. It's humongous in India and Brazil. If Google gets their shit together, they can turn it into a winner. Unfortunately, they can no longer tell which spaghetti is sticking.

  • @kingsley -- Agreed, Orkut still has dominance in it's markets, and perhaps it's due for a blogger-style refresh.

    As for the rest of this article? Some of it's correct, some not. And trying to boil down a complex situation into sensational headlines just doesn't work. (I mean really -- "Brad boy"? let's have a little respect here...) I doubt that you'll find anyone that's happy Brad's leaving, and as usual the LJ drama is way over-represented. LiveJournal represents an important technology and user base for Six Apart -- hardly what I would call "saddled".

    I do agree that working on open ways of interlinking social networks with open protocols and standards will be good for Six Apart, Brad, and especially consumers. Six Apart has pushed many of these standards from the start, FOAF, OpenID, OPML, Atom, and more. I'd hate to think of what the web would be like without these innovations. And I am looking forward to more and better interoperability in the future. That's way more interesting than any hyped up employer/employee drama anyday :)


  • My initial feelings about this post: [imgs.xkcd.com]

    After reflection: poorly documented and misleading. "Insults"? Where? "Difficult employee"? Cite, please. And so on and so forth.

    "Grown-up responsibilities?" Please. He's an engineer, not a manager. I can count the number of software engineers that make good managers on one hand. The two professions are mutually antagonistic.

    There's some interesting analysis here that unfortunately got slimed by the manufactured drama. That's a pity.

    You've almost made me start missing Skinny DuBaud.

  • Image of Owen Thomas Owen Thomas at 07:43 PM on 08/09/07 *

    @grimmtooth: You've made me so happy just knowing that someone else remembers Skinny DuBaud. I thought I was the only one.

  • I knew him personally! One of him, anyway.

  • By "though neither he nor Google has confirmed this," do you mean to suggest you masqueraded as a real journalist and called them (not E-mailed, called) for an actual comment? Or do you mean "Though neither he nor Google knew I was writing about this, hence neither has spontaneously E-mailed me a confirmation"?

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