<![CDATA[Valleywag: iminlikewithyou]]> http://cache.gawker.com/assets/base/img/thumbs140x140/valleywag.com.png <![CDATA[Valleywag: iminlikewithyou]]> http://valleywag.com/tag/iminlikewithyou http://valleywag.com/tag/iminlikewithyou <![CDATA[ Charles Forman thinks you're fat ]]> Let's keep this nerdfight short and sweet — no, make that bitter: New York-based blogger/consultant Allen Stern thinks New York-based videogame designer Charles Forman is jejune and uninteresting. Forman thinks Stern is fat. In a predictably deleted comment on Silicon Alley Insider, Forman rails at Stern for complaining about his frequent appearances at the New York Tech Meetup. Here's Forman's counterpoint:

Charles Forman (URL) said:Oct. 13, 5:59 PM
I don't like my name being dropped this many times without a picture of my pretty face attached.

Ah yes. The alley insider is up to rousing rabble for page views from my Google Alerts? Awesome. What's this? Detective Retardo is on the case - the champion of the underdog, and the morbidly obese? Totally fucking awesome.

Did I fail to entertain you? Did I fail to show something interesting? Of
I spent 2 days preparing my presentation so everyone wouldn't be bored to death. I doubt there has been another presenter that has put as much love into their presentations as I have.

Do you not understand what we am trying to do? Of course you do. You know how difficult and truly amazing it is.

I think the real problem is that you are jealous of my ability to run a mile in under 3 days. Maybe its that I date hot girls? Honestly, I don't understand how your beef with me - or your petty, passive aggressive approach.

If you have a problem with fairness, why aren't you paying $20? You very realistically take up 2 seats.

Seriously, if you have such a problem, why don't you just do your own democratic tech meetup and watch as no one shows up?

You are a sad, lonely, disgusting man. I hope you don't die of a coronary before we have a chance to patch things up.

*Kisses*

(Photo of Forman by Charles Forman)

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Mon, 13 Oct 2008 15:40:00 PDT Owen Thomas http://valleywag.com/index.php?op=postcommentfeed&postId=5062878&view=rss&microfeed=true
<![CDATA[ Introducing New York's own Web 2.0 "playboys" ]]> The golden boys of New York's start-up scene are just as flashbulb-driven as the women who dote on them, a new Details mag feature reveals. Mostly they followed Tumblr's enfant terrible, David Karp, and his heterosexual beard Charles Forman, who pimps "social gaming" at iminlikewithyou but is still better known as last season's Mr. Julia Allison. There's a guest appearance by Kevin Rose, which you can just tell is going to get messy. He's inserted towards the end as the wise old sage, warning these new guys away from male Internet fameballing:

Kevin Rose—"an old, old man," to quote Cashmore—never planned on going to the Mashable party. "I'm all partied out," he says. People magazine readers probably wouldn't know who Rose is, but among the Internet-savvy he's Brad Pitt. Rose, who dated Julia Allison a few years ago, is remarkably low-key compared with his younger counterparts. Drinking tea out of a mug covered with skulls and crossbones, he perks up when the talk turns to rock climbing (he's in a group called Geeks Love Climbing). He says he doesn't know what the term fameballer means. He also says he doesn't do things like wedge himself into nightclubs to have his picture taken with founder fetishists.

Those would be the women who this sort of scorn is usually reserved for: Julia Allison and her heiress apparents.

The Details profile is predictably overblown, but its core message is clear: There's a new generation of men in tech who no longer feel it's enough to just launch a product people want — unless that product is themselves.

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Tue, 30 Sep 2008 21:00:00 PDT Melissa Gira Grant http://valleywag.com/index.php?op=postcommentfeed&postId=5057134&view=rss&microfeed=true
<![CDATA[ Charles Forman vs. Julia Allison ]]> They always made for an unlikely couple. Besides a Manhattan address, a burning desire for tech-world fame, ties to Digg founder Kevin Rose, and towering self-regard, Iminlikewithyou founder Charles Forman and former Star TV spokeswoman Julia Allison had practically nothing in common. And now they have broken up, with publicly delivered disses. Allison's mechanism: Twitter, where she wished for "a boyfriend who isn't a whiny bitch." Forman's forum: YouTube, where a tirade against "celebrichauns with founder fetishes" was uploaded. The anti-Allison rant:

Note to Forman: 111 Minna, which he says is a celebrichaun hangout, is actually in San Francisco's Financial District, just south of Market Street — not in the Mission. But thanks for the Valleywag shoutouts, Chuck!

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Wed, 30 Jul 2008 12:00:00 PDT Owen Thomas http://valleywag.com/index.php?op=postcommentfeed&postId=5031116&view=rss&microfeed=true
<![CDATA[ Hasbro sues Scrabulous creators, who could have gotten away with it ]]> Hasbro, maker of board game Scrabble, has filed suit in a New York court against Rajat and Jayant Agarwalla, the brothers who created Scrabulous, a Facebook-app version of the game. Hasbro also filed a DMCA notice with Facebook, asking that the company remove the game from its website because it infringes on Hasbro's copyright. I'm not a lawyer, and neither is Iminlikewithyou founder Charles Forman — but he has managed to get away with his own bit of copying other people's games, turning Tetris into Blockles and Pictionary into Draw My Thing, for example. Forman tells us that the Agarwallas would be totally in the clear if they'd only copied Scrabble's rules in building Scrabulous. Game rules can't be copyrighted, argues Forman. But since the Scrabulous guys also copied the physical appearance of the Scrabble board — which can be copyrighted — Forman thinks they're screwed.

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Thu, 24 Jul 2008 13:20:00 PDT Nicholas Carlson http://valleywag.com/index.php?op=postcommentfeed&postId=5028827&view=rss&microfeed=true
<![CDATA[ The Kevin Rose- Julia Allison-Charles Forman love (and money) triangle ]]> Here's Iminlikewithyou founder Charles Forman's unenviable position: The pectacularly buff New York techie is dating former Star editor-at-large turned wantrepreneur Julia Allison, but she still holds a candle for Digg founder Kevin Rose, whom she briefly dated earlier this year. And, coincidentally, Rose just happens to be an Iminlikewithyou investor. Maybe that's not so bad for Forman.

If his casual-games venture goes well, he'll have more free time to spend squiring Allison around Manhattan. (She even sometimes gets Forman's name right when introducing him to strangers.) And every moment Allison's out and about is a moment when she's not online obsessing about Rose. Less drama, more money? Rose had better hope Forman's startup takes off.

(Photos by b_d_solis)

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Wed, 09 Jul 2008 12:40:00 PDT Nicholas Carlson http://valleywag.com/index.php?op=postcommentfeed&postId=5023475&view=rss&microfeed=true
<![CDATA[ Why are Jakob Lodwick and Charles Forman in Esquire? ]]> We don't own a smoking jacket or get manicures, so were unaware that New York wantrepreneurs Charles Forman of Iminlikewithyou and fired Connected Ventures cofounder Jakob Lodwick appear in the latest issue of Esquire until Forman pointed it out to us this morning. "Good to see you yesterday," Forman managed to say before asking: "Are you going to put my Esquire thing on Valleywag?" Fine. But only because it gives us a chance to examine what, exactly fellow wantrepreneur Julia Allison sees in him. Yes, the pair are dating. (Though we hear she sometimes forgets his name when introducing him at parties.)


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Fri, 06 Jun 2008 10:20:00 PDT Nicholas Carlson http://valleywag.com/index.php?op=postcommentfeed&postId=5013929&view=rss&microfeed=true
<![CDATA[ Iminlikewithyou close to more funding ]]> Web videogame maker Iminlikewithyou is close to earning revenues — about three months away — and closer to landing more funding, we hear. When Jason Calacanis was in town earlier this year, Iminlikewithyou founder Charles Forman told him he planned to make money by selling gamers avatar and in-game upgrades. Forman is already funded by Betaworks, a New York-based incubator which has also backed Tumblr. A likely investor: SoftBank Capital, which is "very active in NYC right now," according to a source familiar with the East Coast VC scene — but we're now told SoftBank looked at Iminlikewithyou, and passed.

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Tue, 20 May 2008 12:20:00 PDT Nicholas Carlson http://valleywag.com/index.php?op=postcommentfeed&postId=392056&view=rss&microfeed=true
<![CDATA[ Slide exec on widgets: Fun is where the money is ]]> This decade's greatest Internet hits — Google and PayPal — make so much money because they help money change hands more efficiently. The next great wave of moneymakers on the Web won't be nearly so utilitarian, Keith Rabois, VP at widgetmaker Slide, argues in a guest post to AllThingsD. Rabois says the Web's next mint will be made on fun — a very underrated commodity, he says. To demonstrate his point, he harkens back to the week of April 21 and the electoral contest that captured all of America's attention. Not the Pennsylvania Democratic primary, Rabois writes. "I'm talking about American Idol." Then he lays down some convincing numbers:

Consider the value of other companies that deliver entertainment: Disney (DIS), Time Warner (TWX) and Sony (SNE) have a combined market cap of over $168 billion. Gross revenue for the NFL and MLB last year exceeded $12 billion. Apple (AAPL) made nearly $2 billion through iTunes music sales alone. Social networks benefit from increased activity, advertisers benefit from an exuberant audience, and widget users can, well, share favorite "American Idol" moments, send virtual margaritas or trout slap each other.
In the past, we've mostly sided with Swisher on the time-wasting inanity of widgets on Facebook and other social sites. Swayed by Rabois, we take it all back. Swisher, as my boss reminds me, "has become a boring soccer mom. Her idea of 'fun' involves picking up plastic toys." We, however, are very much in favor of fun. Especially the kind that adds up to market capitalizations in the billions of dollars.

We're just not sure Slide or any other of the widgetmakers are there yet. Scrolling through Facebook's application directory, we mostly find the Web's version of road-trip distractions like the find-all-50-states-license-plate game or the one where you guess the name of the person I'm thinking. They pass the time, sure. But are they the next American Idol? No.

Or not yet. Rabois, and his boss, Slide founder Max Levchin, will work until they get there. For an idea how they might, we suggest they and you check out Draw My Thing from Iminlikewithyou, a sort of Pictionary for the Web. Just remember, Keith: You type the answers rather than call them out.

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Wed, 14 May 2008 14:20:00 PDT Nicholas Carlson http://valleywag.com/index.php?op=postcommentfeed&postId=390561&view=rss&microfeed=true
<![CDATA[ Reallynotinlikewithyou ]]> CharlesForman.jpg"Charles Forman is the most arrogant person I've ever met. Other than myself." — Jason Calacanis, on the tight-T-shirted Iminlikewithyou founder.

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Thu, 20 Mar 2008 15:20:15 PDT Nicholas Carlson http://valleywag.com/index.php?op=postcommentfeed&postId=370335&view=rss&microfeed=true
<![CDATA[ Charles Forman desperately wants you to see him holding hands with David Karp ]]> CharlesChat.jpgIminlikewithyou founder Charles Forman is a shameless self-promoter. And it disgusts us. The photo below of Forman and Tumblr founder David Karp, however, does not.

KarpForman.jpg

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Wed, 19 Mar 2008 15:40:37 PDT Nicholas Carlson http://valleywag.com/index.php?op=postcommentfeed&postId=369938&view=rss&microfeed=true
<![CDATA[ Don't everybody apply at once, now ]]> iminlikewithyoublog.jpgIminlikewithyou founder Charles Forman needs a Ruby developer. If you already have a job, Forman writes on his blog, "You should quit." One small hitch? The job's in New York ... sorta.

You probably aren't working on something as cool as this. You probably don't make as much as I can pay you. You probably don't have a boss this good looking. We offer a great benefits package including bigotry and racism. Oh yeah - you have to live in New York City or move here or convince us to move into your apartment.
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Tue, 29 Jan 2008 15:40:06 PST Nicholas Carlson http://valleywag.com/index.php?op=postcommentfeed&postId=350298&view=rss&microfeed=true
<![CDATA[ Rackspace competitors loving the fail ]]> http://valleywag.com/assets/resources/2008/01/RackspaceCompetitor-thumb.jpgSilicon Valley understands competition, even schadenfreude. So you'll forgive Rackspace competitors if they're just a tad gleeful at the managed hosting firm's failures of late. "It was very interesting (and quite a pleasure) to read your blog about [Rackspace] Well done!" one such competitor writes in an email, here attached as image (click to expand). He goes on: "Would you mind forwarding this email (or making an introduction via email) to Charles Forman with Iminlikewithyou.com?" Well, we'll see do what we can do. Charles?

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Thu, 24 Jan 2008 10:40:22 PST Nicholas Carlson http://valleywag.com/index.php?op=postcommentfeed&postId=348288&view=rss&microfeed=true
<![CDATA[ Iminlikewithyou founder downright adorable in 1995 ]]> He's Silicon Alley's favorite asshole now, but back in 1995, iminlikewithyou founder Charles Forman was just your regular old high school "computer whiz." Below, find a clipping from a 1995 copy of the Daily Herald, suburban Chicago's "largest daily newspaper."

Headlined "Fenton High computer whiz bringing school life online," it's about Forman's plans to "help users connect directly to areas they're interested in, similar to the format used by America Online." Just like iminlikewithyou!

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Tue, 22 Jan 2008 14:30:17 PST Nicholas Carlson http://valleywag.com/index.php?op=postcommentfeed&postId=347452&view=rss&microfeed=true
<![CDATA[ Four reasons customers hate Rackspace ]]> Managed Web hosting firm Rackspace took out Tumblr, the trendy blogging site, last night, 37signals on Friday, a bunch of U.K. sites in December, and most of the websites you care about last November. Tumblr announced plans to quit the service this morning and at least one other startup customer — Charles Forman of Iminlikewithyou — doesn't blame him. Here are Forman's four reasons why, in his words, "Rackspace f—-ing sucks."

"Dumping them is a pain in the ass," Forman told me by IM. "I would if i had the time, but I don't."

Here's four reasons why he'd switch if he "had the time."

  1. Their uptime used to be good. But now it's normal.
  2. Their support used to be good but again, everyone offers the same shit now.
  3. They've turned lazy and they are basically like — 'yeah — we forgot to do this shit — it will be 3 more days."
  4. During that outage in their datacenter I didn't get one fucking phone call. I got a fucking mass mail apology and thats it. Their shit was down for like a full day and restarted like 3 times. We probably aren't a major account, but its $8k/month. It's a lot of money to me.

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Tue, 22 Jan 2008 10:20:02 PST Nicholas Carlson http://valleywag.com/index.php?op=postcommentfeed&postId=347499&view=rss&microfeed=true
<![CDATA[ I go away for two weeks and this is what happens? ]]> If you hadn't noticed, I got married and went on a honeymoon. Did you miss me? Apparently so. Gizmodo gets banned from CES. Golson asks Calacanis for a job. Our very special correspondent pickets against the new pay system. Where was Denton with the "too insidery" warnings? Oh that's right, blogging for Gawker. Here's what really happened during the first two weeks of 2008, according to a speed-read of my feeds. On my next honeymoon, I'm bringing a laptop.

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Mon, 14 Jan 2008 17:00:41 PST Nicholas Carlson http://valleywag.com/index.php?op=postcommentfeed&postId=344782&view=rss&microfeed=true
<![CDATA[ In which I school Iminlikewithyou founder at his own game ]]>
Here's the infamous Blockles, the Tetris clone from Iminlikewithyou founder Charles Forman. "I dont know what Tetris is," Forman told me. "Blockles is a falling block puzzle game." Right. One that I kicked your ass at, boyo. (Check out the sweet swap move I pulled about 25 seconds in. Bam.)

Compete.com says Iminlikewithyou, Forman's online dating site, has grown 58 percent in the last month. But that's only up to 21,000 or so "people," so big deal.

Even if growth keeps up at that rate, marketing expert Seth Godin — who otherwise raves about Forman's site — will tell you, "There's no way, none, that tradtional online ad models will generate revenue for sites like this."

No revenue? No problem! Forman just wants to own the market, he says: "You look at games on the internet in the U.S., and they are all shit. I will own the casual gaming space in the U.S. within the next year."

Keep in mind, this is the guy whose business card reads, "So ... chances are, you were in like with me. And ... chances are, I gave you this card because I didn't feel like talking to you anymore. Just kidding! LOLZ!"

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Fri, 21 Dec 2007 15:20:31 PST Nicholas Carlson http://valleywag.com/index.php?op=postcommentfeed&postId=336938&view=rss&microfeed=true
<![CDATA[ Startup founder inspired by VH1 reruns ]]> Charles Forman, the Silicon Alley entrepreneur who has a reputation for being a jerk, is tarting up his auction and game-based dating site, Iminlikewithyou, with a loser-generated version of VH1's Pop-Up Video. While it may be a suitable distraction for Iminlikewithyou's juvenile audience, regrettably, the submissions — most of them currently provided by Forman — aren't nearly as clever as the original Pop-Up Video which hasn't aired in at least five years, and hasn't been worth watching for longer than that. But this has led us to a brilliant insight on Forman's grand strategy.



His business plan is taken straight from VH1: I Love the '90s provides him with Pop-Up Video, whileI Love the '80s leads to Tetris clone Blockles. We await the Iminlikewithyou version of Pong when Forman finishes watching I Love the '70s.

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Wed, 14 Nov 2007 13:56:21 PST Tim Faulkner http://valleywag.com/index.php?op=postcommentfeed&postId=322769&view=rss&microfeed=true
<![CDATA[ Tetris owners willnotlike Iminlikewithyou founder ]]>
Charles Forman is currently building Blockles, a surprisingly Tetris-like online game for his dating site, Iminlikewithyou. Why do we suspect he's not going to be making any friends at Tetris owner Electronic Arts?

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Tue, 13 Nov 2007 16:47:33 PST Nicholas Carlson http://valleywag.com/index.php?op=postcommentfeed&postId=322358&view=rss&microfeed=true
<![CDATA[ Iminlikewithyou's messy breakup ]]> Some of you thought we gave Iminlikewithyou founder Charles Forman too much credit when wrote that the creator of the online dating site might not deserve his reputation. "False," one commenter wrote, "he's pure asshole." Later, a tipster clued us in . "The only way you're gonna get the real story of why Charles Forman is a big ass jerk is to talk with his now ex-cofounder, Dan Albritton." So OK, we did.

Turns out Forman fired Albritton, though Albritton characterized his departure as voluntary. But despite the disagreement, when I reached out to Albritton, I didn't get much out of him. The only real shot he took at Forman was a softie:

I'm not going to slag on [Charles] because there is no reason to do it. I'll let him do the damage to his own reputation.
Forman was only too happy to oblige. He told us how Iminlikewithyou was founded led to Albritton's departure.
iminlikewithyou started from a simple, playful idea I had 3 years prior to starting the company, while I was living in Korea. The beginning of the company itself was, in some sense, an accident. I went alongside Dan Albritton to help him pitch his mobile business idea to Y Combinator as a favor to Dan. Within minutes of presenting, Paul Graham at Y Combinator told us that Dan's idea wouldn't work and that they weren't interested. They were, however, interested in us, as people. Paul asked if we had any other ideas.

I said, "How about a dating website?"
He said, "Whats the spin?"
I said, "Auction dating."
He said, "Great. Do you guys want to work on that?"
Dan looked unhappy and said, "I guess so."

Could there be a better way to start a company? Probably.

I pressed Forman a bit and he said he specifically asked Albritton to go because he needed a "doer," not a "thinker."

For his part, Albritton described the Forman version of Iminlikewithyou's creation as "completely accurate." He maintains, however, that his departure had more to do with the fact that his "interest in a dating site was finite.... There was a piece I was really interested in. We built that piece and it was cool. Now, I've actually found something I'm more interested in."

And what's that? He didn't elaborate, but there's a set of photos on Flickr called "Dan Albritton's Secret Project." Check them out — and let me know if you no more.

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Thu, 08 Nov 2007 16:00:03 PST Nicholas Carlson http://valleywag.com/index.php?op=postcommentfeed&postId=320643&view=rss&microfeed=true
<![CDATA[ Iminlikewithyou founder not as big a jerk as you'd think ]]>
"I have a reputation for being an asshole," Iminlikewithyou founder Charles Forman told me at the Reddit party in Greenwich Village the other night. "I don't know why." Truth is, Forman does occasionally transcend his reputation. Witness, for example, this photo here where he wears a Mark Zuckerberg name tag. But, folks, after a quick look at the business card he was handing out Saturday night, you will at the very least be able to understand the roots of this misunderstanding.

Here it is. Forman told me he made it to parody some of the custom business cards he'd been seeing around Manhattan. Fine, but truth in jest, right? Click to see it in its full glory.

Charles Forman's business card

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Mon, 05 Nov 2007 13:13:36 PST Nicholas Carlson http://valleywag.com/index.php?op=postcommentfeed&postId=318980&view=rss&microfeed=true
<![CDATA[ Y Combinator's webcam can't touch MC Hammer ]]>





MC Hammer's rap career may have been over more than a decade ago, but to the startup kids at Y Combinator, he'll always be a superstar. First, he awkwardly pitched Weebly's MySpace profile editor SnapLayout to lifecaster Justine Ezarik, better known as iJustine of Justin.tv. Now, Hammer has made an iminlikewithyou profile. The washed-out rapper hopes to extend his attempts to revive his career beyond being a hanger-on of startups by fighting Vanilla Ice. Only problem — he needs someone with a videocamera, and he's trolling the iminlikewithyou community for volunteers. So what does that tell us about the state of Hammer's career?

The Y Combinator guys may be acting starstruck, but maybe its MC Hammer who's playing the fanboy here. Y Combinator's coterie of entrpreneurs could easily return the favor by providing the rapper with real video services. Everyone, including MC Hammer, knows they can. Why would the startuppers reduce the Hammer to begging for volunteers — if not to subtly put him in his place?

(SnapLayout Demo Video by Dan Veltri)

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Fri, 12 Oct 2007 10:32:18 PDT Tim Faulkner http://valleywag.com/index.php?op=postcommentfeed&postId=310237&view=rss&microfeed=true