There are lies, damn lies, and personal ads. Dave Winer, a newcomer to The Well, an online community, posted one in 1994 that said he had an "athletic build." I don't have a photo of Winer circa 1994 (anyone?), but this one from 2001 doesn't show much supporting evidence. Winer's ad, courtesy of Upcoming.org founder Andy Baio:
From: Dave Winer (dwiner) Date: 1994-08-17 17:52:00 Conference: singles Topic: Personal Ad experiencesThe Sylvia in question? Most likely the sharp-witted, sharp-tongued Sylvia Paull.
Well, here goes — my first message on The Well. I've just been lurking for the last few days, trying to figure out what's going on. It's pretty daunting, but maybe I'm getting the hang of it... You all seem like VERY nice people.
Photo by Kris Krüg on FlickrAnyway, I wrote a personal ad last week, and sent it via email to a bunch of friends, most of them women, for their reaction. Here's the ad:
SWM 39, 6'2", athletic build, Bay Area, software entrepreneur turned massage therapist, gentle hands, romantic, emotionally developed, born-again hippie. Loves gardening, road trips, walking, skiing, writing. Looking for a great gal who's ready to create a safe space for love and lots and lots of play. Send email to: mailbox12@aol.com.
One of my friends had a pretty animated response:
"You're going to find a nurse or a chiropractor. Why? The self-description sounds too needy, as if you're looking for succor. Anyway, i never describe you that way to anyone i know. Your description entirely omits your shining INTELLIGENCE — you're a genius; you assimilate new ideas like most people consume their morning cereal. You see shapes when there are only nebulae. You're also kinetic, always soul-searching. grounded and yet ready to leap. You're body's pretty irrelevant, but obviously you want to be of athletic build (for what sport, exactly, would your body be considered athletic? no offense, but REALLY). As long as you've got some hair left and your sexual organs, your body's functioning, or do you really want to be a combination of Yogi Berra and Albert Einstein? — Love, Sylvia"
Of course I liked Sylvia's version of the ad better. ;->
Dave
PS: I'm a great skier. Definitely athletic.










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I can just imagine Dave and fatScoble comparing their bellies. Ugh, i need a shower.
"I can just imagine Dave and fatScoble comparing their bellies." - Didn't Valleywag post a picture of this recently.
Also, I can see how he'd have an athletic build for skiing. LOTS of momentum.
How did "athletic" become a euphemism for "overweight" in personal ads. At least with BBW your imagination can't get the wrong image.
And now he wants his dumbass aggregator in schools. Like our kids need to see his belly or whatever crap is in Flickr. How about put the money in books where they will learn and not some idiots picture of the grand canyon in spring?
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I don't know about "athletic build"... but definitely a swimmer's build. You know, like Shamu.
@categorically: Agreed, and I believe the same thing about OLPC [valleywag.com] among other cases.
Cowsandmilk said that "OLPC is very driven by people like Ivan who don't need teachers and can learn off the curiosity he constantly talks about. He doesn't see the kids who can't figure out fractions just by being curious."
Same with flickr in classrooms.
George Costanza!
Ha wow you guys are cruel, I'm not biggest fan of Dave sometimes but come on now.
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MAN THE HARPOONS
is the dude naked?
@uncoveditor: a lot candles could be made.
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